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It could be much better than what was actually > done. > Then show one. > > stevo > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2014-08-24 17:41 GMT+04:00 TR NS : >> >> On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=gism >>>> >>> >>> "However, they are there from the gismu creation process to provide >>> mnemonic assistance. How quickly would you learn banguwithout the angu of >>> the English (pronounced languedj)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as >>> easily without the chinese "jiu" (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire >>> second syllable?" >>> >>> I can't really take this explanation seriously. I personally think this >>> one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by statistically mixing the >>> letters of words from other languages just ends up creating words that on >>> the whole no one recognizes. >>> >> >> .ie >> However, what are the alternatives? >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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2014-08-24 20:21 GMT+04:00 MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com&g= t;:
A priori creation is one. It could be much better tha= n what was actually done.=C2=A0

Then show one.
=C2=A0

stevo

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Gleki Arxokun= a <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:



2014-08-24 17:41 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:

On Sunday, August 24, 2014 = 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:

"However, they are= there from the gismu creation process to provide mnemonic assistance. How = quickly would you learn banguwithout the angu of the English (pronounced la= nguedj)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as easily without the chinese = "jiu" (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire second syllable?"= ;

I can't really take this explanation seriously. I p= ersonally think this one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by stati= stically mixing the letters of words from other languages just ends up crea= ting words that on the whole no one recognizes.=C2=A0

.ie
However, what ar= e the alternatives?=C2=A0

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