Received: from mail-yh0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:35627) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XLygN-0004ZW-31 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:55 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f61.google.com with SMTP id f10sf3276374yha.16 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CzC7c8ySZC81ykKgYwHJGhovWC8vN+WJDc0JWyiJGdc=; b=eSgLf+UdTgFeKIwtqfmB+UcF8cOEreCzrFbVBDR7BHTY3oZ6blIMebuSno/yTl0Iuv IAuv4yZj7JWg8WTDEyfCNB1MORgF1zGCP/yD1wWY2XblJQ7UUsp8lfUTKwkvznWrODud IXVwXx+eAGsYiXjohVczRcuzsB0SrLX3Fx6ZrhR6buxaorXuU0MDOPbBBrWk8TsdUeO7 LSF8/R5B511eAQdHPShWJohjbo818sw2F+xSZ9aX03wXKyHAFDe0raLLnmI8sbeFhXmY SAhX5FsN/AnTIlMMTlm2maB7+QlJFcrPNTjYy6qAH8IrmL6hcJl8t/pv6M/PUHXnbhcm S+Sw== X-Received: by 10.50.44.18 with SMTP id a18mr403474igm.12.1408990068542; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.138.68 with SMTP id qo4ls1047072igb.8.canary; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.156.232 with SMTP id wh8mr14907920pab.27.1408990068189; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22e.google.com (mail-vc0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew8si33203vdb.1.2014.08.25.11.07.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22e; Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id la4so15710716vcb.33 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.30.2 with SMTP id o2mr16931640vdh.12.1408990068018; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.219.1 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> <26e79a95-2448-48cf-b269-f295f3073ddf@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:07:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: End vowel for slot? To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d06b27f139d0501781003 X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed --20cf307d06b27f139d0501781003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 .i la stevo cu cusku di'e I have a relex of Lojban with completely a priori gismu. It has the > advantage that every gismu has just one short rafsi and one long rafsi. > If such a relex exists, then with it we can eliminate the rafsi/gismu distinction. Let's suppose we drop all the gismu, and keep only their associated rafsi. For CVC and CCV rafsi, we suffix -no or -mo (for those CVC that end in 'n'), and we can make the gismu forms, and for the CVV, we can't make true gismu forms, but we can construct a CV magic word that will bind the previous cmavo and produce something with the grammar of a selbri. Of course, that would just be in the "standalone gismu" cases. For lujvo, we would proceed as normal. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --20cf307d06b27f139d0501781003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= .i la stevo cu cusku di'e

I have a relex of Lojban w= ith completely a priori gismu. It has the advantage that every gismu has ju= st one short rafsi and one long rafsi.

If such a relex exists, then with it we can eliminate the rafsi/gismu d= istinction.

Let's suppose we drop all the gismu, and keep only t= heir associated rafsi. For CVC and CCV rafsi, we suffix -no or -mo (for tho= se CVC that end in 'n'), and we can make the gismu forms, and for t= he CVV, we can't make true gismu forms, but we can construct a CV magic= word that will bind the previous cmavo and produce something with the gram= mar of a selbri. Of course, that would just be in the "standalone gism= u" cases. For lujvo, we would proceed as normal.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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