Received: from mail-ie0-f189.google.com ([209.85.223.189]:42252) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XM34x-0006yt-ID for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:36 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f189.google.com with SMTP id at20sf1909523iec.16 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uAe/YD1ZE+Qyn2yTRmzkZDIACSrJTnqfr8xQIiTuBYo=; b=k87wLXfjOnML5oiZkCDXx49QcpQGiKMW7MnmYGBJ+/XSvlGYcT+ThLgm77Y4UOkQuh uSZ5CZ9Y+2T8hjZI9QOxe2ZYNm7FyW2gu4i53S6l7RYdpFBE7k629NdywxNXpSfCDScZ y7Q6nbXpxDccEah/DR2gfplZd/g8SzFtsqFIATk/2X2rnjDELnFCCLBrhAjQUPx5RdDh +uZBp1AGD+NA+Ng+YMsaBPNJfrNFvymCMWb5JLZ4/LG5B1dq8Dy8p6wGph4AEh+AJ9h1 Q+UCltXQh8EP0gE8Is0/76bwW9kv2x3cAXbiU/b3NMWGsiBgYcdFdZM0VfL/Y7QuJZeV xppQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uAe/YD1ZE+Qyn2yTRmzkZDIACSrJTnqfr8xQIiTuBYo=; b=FTOGfLu7urn2chlR7u0ruit3bnPnvhtfPIqbb+AQ2XNZfS19KzV3Cagx1STycbZOXX NuJZ04OiFrkgC1p4RYw/VJVhglmX0q2lMPYaZ5NQkR7y/kOWi6rVizii7dX4esUUrcj9 QOzh53u7KbzkTBn6d4h9c7zEKikSZDE7zywKSDnDxdKrYGuQ+GUTmtXw+zLRiLq0mmLa 10ZFVPFzrl42drvi2HafNJUi0FeKC/UGspANnLtGw5PFCLJjVze1X4nD4gIcA3s3JHPi EN73W6VvfpocDac6GbcQ7wr768MK5w62IhifRq5aLIdtSJMXsnOBwGM2wvfftgjdxpOM 53/A== X-Received: by 10.140.93.181 with SMTP id d50mr457316qge.0.1409006968838; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.37.35 with SMTP id q32ls760785qgq.50.gmail; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.37.227 with SMTP id r90mr65309qgr.13.1409006968585; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <8D08DAC0705BEED-E34-41DDD@webmail-d263.sysops.aol.com> <48cd77a8-350c-472c-b0f7-e1f527500707@googlegroups.com> <390cce56-e2e2-480e-8287-d58023e9ae6a@googlegroups.com> <2997de16-c428-4e61-ab16-0e593b58adfa@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Letter Frequency in lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_772_1005283994.1409006968235" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_772_1005283994.1409006968235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:16:32 PM UTC-4, xorxes wrote: > > That may be the case for English speakers, but it's not at all the case in > Spanish. The usual spelling mistakes in Spanish are b/v (they sound exactly > the same, so you just have to know which one is the correct spelling) j/g > and s/z/c (which sound the same for most speakers) and knowing which words > are written with "h" (which is silent). The only case where vowels are > sometimes involved in spelling mistakes is with i/y, but it's much more > rare than the other cases. > > >> And it is the vowels that tend to drift from dialect to dialect. >> > > In English, but not in Spanish. Spanish dialects don't really differ in > the vowels, but they do in some consonants (c/z, s, ch, ll, rr, ...) > That's interesting. I think Arabic has my favorite vowel structure (though it does drift a little). But now I have a better appreciation of Spanish (and Lojban) vowels. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_772_1005283994.1409006968235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:16:32 PM UTC-4, xorxe= s wrote:
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That may be the case for English speakers, = but it's not at all the case in Spanish. The usual spelling mistakes in Spa= nish are b/v (they sound exactly the same, so you just have to know which o= ne is the correct spelling) j/g and s/z/c (which sound the same for most sp= eakers) and knowing which words are written with "h" (which is silent). The= only case where vowels are sometimes involved in spelling mistakes is with= i/y, but it's much more rare than the other cases.
 
And i= t is the vowels that tend to drift from dialect to dialect.

In English, but not in Spanish. Spanish dialects don't = really differ in the vowels, but they do in some consonants (c/z, s, ch, ll= , rr, ...)

That's i= nteresting. I think Arabic has my favorite vowel structure (though it does = drift a little). But now I have a better appreciation of Spanish (and Lojba= n) vowels. Thanks.

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