Received: from mail-la0-f62.google.com ([209.85.215.62]:51801) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XMWfk-0002w1-BU for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:33 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f62.google.com with SMTP id hz20sf1665343lab.7 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7m26Rud05VyX6O9VVEhOH3AaaRxaow7hTekJRI5yMYk=; b=HkIZJUkMnc3NDG5NLy6nrieSXkD5m40S4LsGeSLmMIof7TIpR79JhCOE8a0jYPKEZ7 mqThQPDIhXOGuFo0oI80VK5lPHWOmQmbs8Pb15R4bD1YranfghrQjQQrR1FlHT3FhdpO 3SXPdAZFBiO1zd8hJeXqU8Fp44Nu7Ytk6+KjrB2mR3IBGIgu36dBB2LeALwf8CanfrQS eHE91lB9u5u0m6RPDJuyyMwRN55cwYMppnOoeWW+VkJrklTLjWLM8N93KYfy6+P6AIin iT6Bb6Id3v9mypSL4JtYdmr8kTLxowfcqpjPRmt/ULjsStIvsue3Lzv/Hd5okZf4/CTX 9hfg== X-Received: by 10.152.18.226 with SMTP id z2mr3414lad.27.1409120724662; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.43.166 with SMTP id x6ls19539lal.63.gmail; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.27.2 with SMTP id p2mr19645lag.8.1409120723703; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba3si365895wib.3.2014.08.26.23.25.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::234; Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w61so15637660wes.39 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.157.10 with SMTP id wi10mr33175417wjb.31.1409120723555; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53FD15E0.5060603@lojban.org> References: <53F79061.5000706@lojban.org> <53F7D98A.5020101@lojban.org> <53F893AE.8030901@lojban.org> <53F9FD82.6070306@lojban.org> <53FCC960.5030709@lojban.org> <53FD15E0.5060603@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:25:23 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122ebe22c5bdd0501967cab X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e0122ebe22c5bdd0501967cab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-08-27 3:18 GMT+04:00 Robert LeChevalier : > On 8/26/2014 2:20 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > >> It has > 10 000 sentences in Lojban. Many of >> them are taken from IRC. >> >> Otherwise, it's hard to read the logs in search of good sentences. >> What is good and what is not? >> >> >> If you can't tell, how would you expect the average Joe >> not-yet-a-Lojbanist to do so? >> >> >> i add those sentences that i find interesting to lists. if you want >> tatoeba sentences copied to lojban.org tiki this is >> >> not a problem. Where would you like them to see and in what format? As a >> two-column table? >> > > I am the last person to consult on website design. I'm just saying that a > chronic complaint from new people and casual strangers is that our home > page lacks current news, and that if people like you want more people to > read Lojban, you should make sure Lojban text which will encourage > discussion should be on the home page or some other place where people will > quickly page to. In the past Matt was encouraging discussion with a blog, > so it seems like a timely blog, in language, possibly with multiple > contributors, would be the sort of thing that will encourage what you > want. I would ask Matt for other ideas - he was the one with ideas and > enthusiasm for promoting Lojban. I'm of the wrong generation to know how > to appeal to youngsters (i.e. people under 50 %^) > For storing lengthy ideas some use blogs or pages on lojban.org and mw.lojban.org In most cases they place links to their articles (no matter where their articles reside) to the freenode #lojban channel, http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ or https://www.facebook.com/groups/lojban/ or to twitter.com > If moving all discussions to Lojban fail then you can ban us and >> continue the old policy of non-proliferation of Lojban zo'oru'e. >> >> That isn't "policy". It is de facto reality. >> >> >> There is a separate thread where people are making requests both in >> Lojban and in English. >> > > What thread? "End vowel for slot" doesn't seem like that sort of thing. I don't know if you receive messages from it. Here its online copy showing that using only Lojban is not a problem: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/jiHfjZUqTjM > > lojbab > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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2014-08-27 3:18 GMT+04:00 Robert LeChevalier <= lojbab@lojban.org>:
On 8/26/2014 2:20 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote= :
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 It has > 10 000 sentences in Lojban. Many of=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 them are taken from IRC.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Otherwise, it's hard to read the logs in se= arch of good sentences.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 What is good and what is not?


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you can't tell, how would you expect the average Joe =C2=A0 =C2=A0 not-yet-a-Lojbanist to do so?


i add those sentences that i find interesting to lists. if you want
tatoeba sentences copied to lojban.org <http://= lojban.org> tiki this is

not a problem. Where would you like them to see and in what format? As a two-column table?

I am the last person to consult on website design.=C2=A0 I'm just sayin= g that a chronic complaint from new people and casual strangers is that our= home page lacks current news, and that if people like you want more people= to read Lojban, you should make sure Lojban text which will encourage disc= ussion should be on the home page or some other place where people will qui= ckly page to.=C2=A0 In the past Matt was encouraging discussion with a blog= , so it seems like a timely blog, in language, possibly with multiple contr= ibutors, would be the sort of thing that will encourage what you want.=C2= =A0 I would ask Matt for other ideas - he was the one with ideas and enthus= iasm for promoting Lojban.=C2=A0 I'm of the wrong generation to know ho= w to appeal to youngsters (i.e. people under 50 %^)

For storing lengthy ideas some use blogs o= r pages on
lojban.org and=C2=A0=
In most cases they place links to their articles (no matter where thei= r articles reside) to the freenode #lojban channel,=C2=A0
http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ or=C2=A0https://www.facebook.com/group= s/lojban/ or to twitter.com



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If moving all discussions to Lojban fail then y= ou can ban us and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 continue the old policy of non-proliferation of= Lojban zo'oru'e.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 That isn't "policy".=C2=A0 It is de facto reali= ty.


There is a separate thread where people are making requests both in
Lojban and in English.

What thread?=C2=A0 "End vowel for slot" doesn't seem like tha= t sort of thing.
I don't know if you receive messages = from it. Here its online copy showing that using only Lojban is not a probl= em:
http= s://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/jiHfjZUqTjM



lojbab

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