Received: from mail-yh0-f64.google.com ([209.85.213.64]:35697) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XNZUI-0001PF-Fp for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:38:05 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f64.google.com with SMTP id a41sf754997yho.29 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X2WHmndL7tEFjwGiUMHL3pzL1jrP1hrfJemFXF1EVnY=; b=E7NRFhISWVUJzXCj94Rn3Flxs8sxmbyknoF5MPRu9WFuNxZLnF74zx1D7sZDKg2I2/ Or+y7Gqnjdo7P4ip+y/KTQ60pfNb7ab9rNSUi3vCUGjr/T+MvVeIuxEHJe6KX+AEO/7p NdvhvxPEWeYeUDLJgX7+7dP6Lo6GbISD/akZxGdmXe7nRvcujrcoEE5zl5CJrXak6nBg CiJQ9fZvkJlIDRvhkCdqYvR8ec1kJOpMavhI99sl3+YA0QXyH7r9lRFTWdgvurg7x1Si LawbBZswxoYhu1CKhcNZ6MpUm16wLVub6796zpXHSHH3KNbvRqzGC3yCGy4i9ViGmo2M uQdw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X2WHmndL7tEFjwGiUMHL3pzL1jrP1hrfJemFXF1EVnY=; b=XwMN60u90RmA6uiAdWzSlF6gUxs+sEYgao/vCYIJVemfYk0rF/CU68paA4c+/qcSs5 bX6TuHBXb5xuYx/weeHr66yEiAhuAgNa7W8oSIU6iyl7ydp4FCCJcUd1pQwji14blbyP nZmXQHcuFp/o1mCzLmk6XyX4X7yVmuecBsnNyBNXjFXi7ggv5oZFj8ALh/cLOrXk7lmD NBGkM90XcKntkq9gG1GCrTVoVLS2QNOu7Jsu57ymPTZYV2sR/B+NUosDEgvw9KrDw+vX rh6oEDXvl5ESPhHntMk5xglHBQx2OyXXJpCeAMPOKUWtvBG6Tnos5MQNz+wjX+vNbmbg dMWA== X-Received: by 10.50.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr164104igi.14.1409369875767; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.117.72 with SMTP id kc8ls732740igb.37.canary; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.142.104 with SMTP id rv8mr163677igb.11.1409369875338; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:37:54 -0700 (PDT) From: mukti To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <5e04bb30-1271-4e0b-b80a-0ab189b652fe@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Verifying LLG's current bylaws MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: shunpiker@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1590_1943801982.1409369874001" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1590_1943801982.1409369874001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The 2003 annual meeting appears to have passed a number of bylaw amendments, but not all amendments appear to be reflected in the current text of the bylaws as posted on the lojban.org web site. The minutes are not always clear about what is being passed or amended, and make numerous references to an agenda which is not reproduced, so it's possible that I am misreading them. I will describe what I see as the potentially successful amendments below. If someone can provided additional context to clarify whether or not these motions in fact constitute successful amendments to LLG's bylaws, please do so. mi'e la mukti mu'o ---- 1. An amendment to Article 3 Section 8: The phrase "proposal and approval of new members, who shall assume membership immediately if present at the next meeting" should read "proposal and approval of new members, who shall assume membership immediately if present at the current meeting" This successful motion is described as an addendum, but the meaning of that distinction is not clear. It is preceded in the minutes by an apparently unrelated failed motion to amend Article 5 Section 2. 2. The following succcessful motion does not make explicit reference to amending the bylaws, but was considered during a portion of the meeting which seems to have been devoted to bylaw amendments: That a new office be created, effective 2004, which can only be filled by a Virginia resident. The office has no duties in particular. Holding the office is compatible with holding another office or directorship Article 4 Section 1 specifies: "at least one (1) of such Directors shall be a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia" -- which seems to express a similar requirement, but may or may not be related to this motion. 3. An amendment to Article 3 Section 8: That The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure, in its most recent version, be the Parliamentary Authority for the LLG (where not specifically overruled by the Bylaws, Articles of Incorporation, or relevant laws and statutes) This motion *does* appear to have been incorporated in the current text of the bylaws, superseding a bylaw amendment passed by the 1996 annual meeting specifying "Standard Parliamentary Code 3rd edition". 4. Motion 9G3 ("to allow electronic communication for LLG official purposes"). Since the minutes describe the motion as having been "reconsidered", I assume the text may have been included in an earlier motion which failed on initial consideration: That all references to postal mail, telephone, and electronic mail throughout the bylaws be removed in favour of completely generic terms such as "notify" and "reasonable and customary forms of communication", unless they are specific exceptions to the principles of the section on Communications (such as a specific need for written notification) 5. An amendment to Article 3 Section 1: Qualifications of both new and ongoing membership shall be high personal dedication to the purposes of The Logical Language Group, Inc as set forth in that Article, expressed interest in helping to manage the affairs of the community, continuing involvement in the activities of the community, and attendance at the AGM. Failure to satisfy some of these conditions is not necessarily a disqualification from membership, if some of the other conditions are satisfied to a sufficiently high degree This motion is described as a "friendly amendment" to a motion to add "continuing involvement" to the list of qualifications for LLG membership. That motion appears to have been amended such that it was demoted to a "resolution of principle rather than a bylaw amendment". However, the amendment that contains this text follows the motion which converted the previous bylaw amendment to a resolution. I assume that the quoted text is intended to amend the resolution of principle rather than the bylaws, but given other doubts, I'm asking for clarification. 6. An amendment to Article 3 Section 1: To add "or demonstrated participation in the Lojban language language community" to the list of qualifications This motion is likewise described as a "friendly amendment", following a bylaw amendment motion which was demoted to a "resolution of principle". However, the motion it follows in the minutes appears completely unrelated: A motion possibly related to Article 3 Section 3, "To amend the Bylaws to allow the Board to declare the resignation of a member for failure to meet the qualifications for sustaining membership if so ratified by the membership". 7. An amendment to Article 2 Section 1: To add "to support the community of people learning and using this language" and "In the furtherance of its purposes as stated above, The Logical Language Group, Inc. shall place priority on support of the community of persons learning, using, experimenting with, and promoting the language known as "Lojban language - A Realization of Loglan" or alternatively 'Lojban'." to the statement of purpose of the LLG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1590_1943801982.1409369874001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The 2003 annual meeting appears to have passed a numb= er of bylaw amendments, but not all amendments appear to be reflected in the current text of the bylaws as posted on the lojban.org web sit= e. The minutes are not always clear about what is being passed or amended, = and make numerous references to an agenda which is not reproduced, so it's = possible that I am misreading them. 

I will d= escribe what I see as the potentially successful amendments below. If someo= ne can provided additional context to clarify whether or not these motions = in fact constitute successful amendments to LLG's bylaws, please do so.

mi'e la mukti mu'o

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1. An amendment to Article 3 Section 8:

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The phrase "proposal and approval of new members, who shall assume me= mbership immediately if present at the next meeting" should read "proposal = and approval of new members, who shall assume membership immediately if pre= sent at the current meeting"

This suc= cessful motion is described as an addendum, but the meaning of that distinc= tion is not clear. It is preceded in the minutes by an apparently unrelated= failed motion to amend Article 5 Section 2.

2. Th= e following succcessful motion does not make explicit reference to amending= the bylaws, but was considered during a portion of the meeting which seems= to have been devoted to bylaw amendments:

That a new o= ffice be created, effective 2004, which can only be filled by a Virginia re= sident. The office has no duties in particular. Holding the office is compa= tible with holding another office or directorship
Article 4 Section 1 specifies: "at least one (1) of such Direc= tors shall be a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia" -- which seems to= express a similar requirement, but may or may not be related to this motio= n.

3. An amendment to Article 3 Section 8:

That The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure, in its most= recent version, be the Parliamentary Authority for the LLG (where not spec= ifically overruled by the Bylaws, Articles of Incorporation, or relevant la= ws and statutes) 

This motion does appear to have been incorporated in the current text of the bylaw= s, superseding a bylaw amendment passed by the 1996 annual meeting specifyi= ng "Standard Parliamentary Code 3rd edition".

4. M= otion 9G3 ("to allow electronic communication for LLG official purposes"). = Since the minutes describe the motion as having been "reconsidered", I assu= me the text may have been included in an earlier motion which failed on ini= tial consideration:

That all references to postal mail,= telephone, and electronic mail throughout the bylaws be removed in favour = of completely generic terms such as "notify" and "reasonable and customary = forms of communication", unless they are specific exceptions to the princip= les of the section on Communications (such as a specific need for written n= otification)

5. An amendment to Artic= le 3 Section 1:

Qualifications of both new and ongoing = membership shall be high personal dedication to the purposes of The Logical= Language Group, Inc as set forth in that Article, expressed interest in he= lping to manage the affairs of the community, continuing involvement in the= activities of the community, and attendance at the AGM. Failure to satisfy= some of these conditions is not necessarily a disqualification from member= ship, if some of the other conditions are satisfied to a sufficiently high = degree 

This motion is described= as a "friendly amendment" to a motion to add "continuing involvement" to t= he list of qualifications for LLG membership. That motion appears to have b= een amended such that it was demoted to a "resolution of principle rather t= han a bylaw amendment". However, the amendment that contains this text foll= ows the motion which converted the previous bylaw amendment to a resolution= . I assume that the quoted text is intended to amend the resolution of prin= ciple rather than the bylaws, but given other doubts, I'm asking for clarif= ication.

6. An amendment to Article 3 Section 1:

To add "or demonstrated participation in the Lojban lang= uage language community" to the list of qualifications

This motion is likewise described as a "friendly amendmen= t", following a bylaw amendment motion which was demoted to a "resolution o= f principle". However, the motion it follows in the minutes appears complet= ely unrelated: A motion possibly related to Article 3 Section 3, "To amend = the Bylaws to allow the Board to declare the resignation of a member for fa= ilure to meet the qualifications for sustaining membership if so ratified b= y the membership".

7. An amendment to Article 2 Se= ction 1:

To add "to support the community of people lea= rning and using this language" and "In the furtherance of its purposes as s= tated above, The Logical Language Group, Inc. shall place priority on suppo= rt of the community of persons learning, using, experimenting with, and pro= moting the language known as "Lojban language - A Realization of Loglan" or= alternatively 'Lojban'." to the statement of purpose of the LLG

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