Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 06:06:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: criticism of lojban needed
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On Monday, September 1, 2014 4:07:03 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
>
> the wikipedia article about lojban might need a short list of criticism of 
> lojban with links (e.g. to posts in this mailing list). Balanced criticism 
> actually makes languages more popular, so it's advisable to make such a 
> list.
>
> Here are some thoughts:
> 1. gismu are hard to learn by everyone (as the algorithm mutilates the 
> initial form of words)
> 2. za'a/ga'a/zgana/zga is hard to remember (would be better to have one 
> root instead of 4)
> 3. abundance of kafkylerfu
> 4. still no machine translation
>
> ke'u, links needed, the list might need more items
>

LOL. Maybe there are other conlang lists that would be better to ask?

My thoughts:

* Somewhat high phonological density --nearly every possible CV and CV'V 
cmavo is used.
* gismu has no taxonomic (a priori) design at all
* sounds a bit like an Apache Polish American speaking atonal Chinese

Ok. That last one is subjective, but my point is simply that it is unlikely 
to rank high in a "best sounding" poll.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Monday, September 1, 2014 4:07:03 AM UTC-4, la =
gleki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-lef=
t: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">t=
he wikipedia article about lojban might need a short list of criticism of l=
ojban with links (e.g. to posts in this mailing list). Balanced criticism a=
ctually makes languages more popular, so it's advisable to make such a list=
.<div>
<br></div><div>Here are some thoughts:</div><div>1. gismu are hard to learn=
 by everyone (as the algorithm mutilates the initial form of words)</div><d=
iv>2. za'a/ga'a/zgana/zga is hard to remember (would be better to have one =
root instead of 4)</div>
<div>3. abundance of kafkylerfu</div><div>4. still no machine translation</=
div><div><br></div><div>ke'u, links needed, the list might need more items<=
/div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>LOL. Maybe there are other conl=
ang lists that would be better to ask?</div><div><br></div><div>My thoughts=
:</div><div><br></div><div>* Somewhat high phonological density --nearly ev=
ery possible CV and CV'V cmavo is used.<br></div><div>* gismu has no taxono=
mic (a priori) design at all</div><div>* sounds a bit like an Apache Polish=
 American speaking atonal Chinese</div><div><br></div><div>Ok. That last on=
e is subjective, but my point is simply that it is unlikely to rank high in=
 a "best sounding" poll.</div><div><br></div></div>

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