Received: from mail-la0-f57.google.com ([209.85.215.57]:64126) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XOT1z-0001MZ-Fb for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:32 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f57.google.com with SMTP id b8sf542517lan.2 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VA8wTgh5vyoq2Yp4IoZqfFWi5d6oTlfEZiVwFs5NZrg=; b=beDLQhBm1MiRM4uJI42s7NtLyqnm7v0z/F2T5f8cdDlw9SxtDYsDb2X/fYVBSVC5Ba ekzL8/U9vFU2xxo5YYKv3dztHZN0JjX9WOOWtP//X4ODiymwob+yLRPH1gEdU0l6Fi/T wO8uhXcOCMrmBXXIEQODZWeFwqzCDo1MyqanjY38sL6vH5YzbXGJEyO+ti2itPzlha42 GbNJdgtT//ZBoUMTDZoeYXS8mwHWLpC+erlmPo/+q0WiVFBogrBKxuuf8Yd/pX6dyAWS 7mJ0MKTR5cGO5SY4mqpuRIDTtfY7UhBEiNTYOM0ao7bkqpAMSzEtrcon2dBtk0A3MNIN M4Mg== X-Received: by 10.152.170.225 with SMTP id ap1mr17912lac.9.1409583384231; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.87.69 with SMTP id v5ls36072laz.68.gmail; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.182.8 with SMTP id ea8mr340620lbc.11.1409583382633; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gk5si492932wic.1.2014.09.01.07.56.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f; Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id z12so5440402wgg.6 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.95.8 with SMTP id dg8mr33479866wjb.1.1409583382427; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <68bfe745-9092-41e8-9fee-46c9b0f6d9e0@googlegroups.com> References: <68bfe745-9092-41e8-9fee-46c9b0f6d9e0@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 18:56:22 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Idea about taxonomic vocabualry From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0f56ca7e7705020234c2 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bdc0f56ca7e7705020234c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Semantical categorization of the universe can't be done since most concepts have more than one useful tag. Look at this attempt: http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=semantic_categorization_of_gismu It is not perfect and no attempt can be perfect. Also read this: http://www.alamut.com/subj/artiface/language/johnWilkins.html 2014-09-01 18:36 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > I was thinking about stevo's `CV` categorized gismu (still would like to > see that, btw) and recently reading about the notion of taxonomic languages > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_language) when a neat idea > struck me. If the the first three letters of a gismu related all such words > --for the sake of argument let's say all fruit words started with `fru`, so > then `frupa` might mean apple, `furba` banana, `furca` strawberry, etc. > then my idea is that there could be a special cmavo that created a "group > context", call it `xi'o... xi'u` and then one could say thins like: > > fruxi'o pa .e ba .e ca [xi'u] > > Which would be the same as > > frupa .e fruba .e fruca > > Of course this cmavo is a little odd b/c it works more like an inflection. > And unfortunately Lojban doesn't have any sort of taxonomic vocabulary > whatsoever. So it doesn't really fly. But I thought it was a neat idea > anyway, so I thought I'd share. > > .trans. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Semantical categorization of the universe can't be don= e since most concepts have more than one useful tag.
Look at this attem= pt:
It is not perfect and no attempt can be perfect.


2= 014-09-01 18:36 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:
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I was thinking about stevo's `CV` categorized gismu (s= till would like to see that, btw) and recently reading about the notion of = taxonomic languages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_la= nguage) when a neat idea struck me. If the the first three letters of a= gismu related all such words --for the sake of argument let's say all = fruit words started with `fru`, so then `frupa` might mean apple, `furba` b= anana, `furca` strawberry, etc. then my idea is that there could be a speci= al cmavo that created a "group context", call it `xi'o... xi&= #39;u` and then one could say thins like:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fruxi'o pa .e ba .e ca [xi'u]

Which would be the same as

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 frupa .e fruba .e fruca

Of course this= cmavo is a little odd b/c it works more like an inflection. And unfortunat= ely Lojban doesn't have any sort of taxonomic vocabulary whatsoever. So= it doesn't really fly. But I thought it was a neat idea anyway, so I t= hought I'd share.

.trans.

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