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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 07:09:39 -0600
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Confused about lujvo parsing
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:02 AM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:20:26 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
>>
>> lo jbovlastekudzuklaji
>>
>>
> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:54:35 PM UTC-4, stevo wrote:
>>
>> Is there only a penultimate stress, on "KLAji"?
>>
>>
> Ok. By these answers I think I understand now: It's solely a matter of
> stress.
>
> I was thinking the consonant/vowel structure was supposed to be enough, so
> it would parse like:
>
>     lojbo vlaste kudzu klaji
>

Without spaces, you would have to write it as {lOjbovlAstekUdzuklAji} to
get that parse.

But there are words such that it could parse:
>
>     lo jbovlaste ku dzuklaji
>

{lojbovlAstekudzuklaji}

Without spaces to delimit the words, you have to explicitly mark the
typically (in writing) implicit stress. So, for example, speaking aloud
{lojbo vlaste kudzu klaji} and {lOjbovlAstekUdzuklAji} sound exactly the
same.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:02 AM, TR NS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
ransfire@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">transfire@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:20:26 PM UTC-4, aionys wr=
ote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">lo j=
bovlastekudzuklaji</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br>On Tuesday, September 2, 20=
14 10:54:35 PM UTC-4, stevo wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">Is there =
only a penultimate stress, on &quot;KLAji&quot;?=A0</div><div style=3D"font=
-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>=
</div>
<div>Ok. By these answers I think I understand now: It&#39;s solely a matte=
r of stress.=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking the consonant/v=
owel structure was supposed to be enough, so it would parse like:</div><div=
>
<br></div><div>=A0 =A0 lojbo vlaste kudzu klaji<br></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br>Without spaces, you would have to write it as {lOjbovlAstekUdzukl=
Aji} to get that parse.<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div></div><div>But there are words such that i=
t could parse:</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 lo jbovlaste ku dzuklaji<br=
></div></div></blockquote><div><br>{lojbovlAstekudzuklaji}<br></div></div><=
br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Without spaces to delimit the words, you h=
ave to explicitly mark the typically (in writing) implicit stress. So, for =
example, speaking aloud {lojbo vlaste kudzu klaji} and {lOjbovlAstekUdzuklA=
ji} sound exactly the same.<br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><=
br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#=
39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
</div></div>

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