Received: from mail-wi0-f186.google.com ([209.85.212.186]:38524) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XPQFc-0002rE-35 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:32 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f186.google.com with SMTP id bs8sf947493wib.23 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ysq938ru6z8nLeQzDx3JMJHK/4KaXf4+Nwdc+v91tzs=; b=C5GLT3dudI8r69Yblxx5/uWF7hQK47j+ViioGP+eh2lYoMt3wE2l+DV/gAdXXXoaYH uQ65W26WTxfzykiQclT96EWZbiQKFlz27z9L1c5l3f5xzdpku9v0TdnDoPp2XsgFEguV 1+mwqeyPbatx+/LI5zyekg0HF23GGzyRv4Cu8d+wVIHnoMKfGWOTs71c4jxTcChaOJbL cvgQaw2D4F8JFe57hoz5xWt57e4xJG9TTkOT8TnqV5JObQ9YiLJYsXzA2o4SGJbnKsey qLr1PFDUJ9ASqah/N4Z9NACEf6dVPIzYEO1LZkgTQ0HUZ4si6avFnMc2UYKjRlGRvPV/ poMQ== X-Received: by 10.152.8.11 with SMTP id n11mr38682laa.2.1409811025089; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.97 with SMTP id r1ls41094lar.84.gmail; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.120.166 with SMTP id ld6mr195344lab.0.1409811023758; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gj7si9821wib.3.2014.09.03.23.10.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id n3so406969wiv.17 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.14.101 with SMTP id o5mr2861651wic.25.1409811023659; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8743b417-5e71-4199-bf00-439dac2936cf@googlegroups.com> References: <8743b417-5e71-4199-bf00-439dac2936cf@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 10:10:23 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Trying to understand "lo mi jufra" From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041555fc440b350502373553 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d041555fc440b350502373553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > {soi crano} is not Lojban, it's Loglan. Loglan didn't have attitudinals > and they had to used {soi} for such things ({soi} is Loglanic version of > {sei}). In Lojban it would be {sei cisma}, but nobody says that, because we > have ui/u'i/zo'o etc. > Loglan did have attitudinals. {ui} is taken from Loglan. Lojban just has more of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d041555fc440b350502373553 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


{soi crano} is not Lojb= an, it's Loglan. Loglan didn't have attitudinals and they had to us= ed {soi} for such things ({soi} is Loglanic version of {sei}). In Lojban it= would be {sei cisma}, but nobody says that, because we have ui/u'i/zo&= #39;o etc.

Loglan did have attitudinals. {ui} i= s taken from Loglan. Lojban just has more of them.

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