Received: from mail-yk0-f187.google.com ([209.85.160.187]:49059) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XPdrN-0001Mc-TD for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:35 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f187.google.com with SMTP id 20sf2271232yks.14 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vQNMvT9zDO4gTfHChPFDtTRHtGTRQYbX4OJdVhPwnZQ=; b=SXA+I6x1LPxf0ctqSMoseRAWX7RE1+Mc0uuJ/1a9n9eQvCmKQIKW4DEiAlO6eUXJal wI/3EDfwt5tELT1MQLucEYyxSO09l6zZjsfkRVZ7b+RUNCV7/uaPCTqI6hFCR8cEPZCv 3F4gor2sOakWy+9Zn6iAA55tbKksnEnugaJPl5VitON9t4TX3OKCkg+XhmJXY54Ra2SD f3lgdaRjidZiJBzBNctG+S6nkUadom29BvkQie1cfpfFzVj+cNZz6zgsGH2yVtxG5NoA dj5UhvdISwR1fYHbWkwbjMlj/8DfrjPjgs1jCa4Y7j4UZYjr3Mhxd79DxU+r/R8c3FFl eEmw== X-Received: by 10.182.131.166 with SMTP id on6mr38246obb.24.1409863339341; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.20.195 with SMTP id p3ls191767obe.84.gmail; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.29.65 with SMTP id i1mr3681660obh.30.1409863338324; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x229.google.com (mail-qa0-x229.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ld1si36123qcb.3.2014.09.04.13.42.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229; Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m5so10204112qaj.14 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.129.201 with SMTP id p9mr11108162qas.75.1409863338212; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.201.74 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6e68746f-6633-4c86-a0b3-86e5cd8fea2e@googlegroups.com> References: <6e68746f-6633-4c86-a0b3-86e5cd8fea2e@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:42:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Why left-grouping of tanru? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2cc0a74c4e50502436396 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c2cc0a74c4e50502436396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Oh, I agree it was an arbitrary choice (as was adverb before verb, prepositions over postpositions, etc. I am just saying it is not as rare in English as you asserted. --geyspa On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM, TR NS wrote: > BTW, my purpose wasn't so much to argue for one grouping over the other, > so much as to just understand the reason Lojban chose left-grouping over > right-grouping. From what I can tell thus far it was essentially an > arbitrary choice based on the idea that neither choice is any better than > the other. Please correct me if there was in fact more to it than that. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c2cc0a74c4e50502436396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0 Oh, I agree it was an arbitrary choice (as was adve= rb before verb, prepositions over postpositions, etc. =C2=A0I am just sayin= g it is not as rare in English as you asserted.

=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --geyspa



On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
BTW, my purpose wasn't = so much to argue for one grouping over the other, so much as to just unders= tand the reason Lojban chose left-grouping over right-grouping. From what I= can tell thus far it was essentially an arbitrary choice based on the idea= that neither choice is any better than the other. Please correct me if the= re was in fact more to it than that.

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