Received: from mail-qc0-f184.google.com ([209.85.216.184]:55401) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XQPel-0006Yk-8I for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:35 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f184.google.com with SMTP id x3sf2812164qcv.21 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zAcDYD90uaGpk6TE3spSGQqQ+LMgtZ2sXBn1hSuz2kA=; b=Nj57yHhuCiHA1NO+JrZFoJGlFlr5AUTEhpJFTJNNf5b5FZWXInOrv4SX80ZEhzY56Q cD+zWEhdPmVXKPIBpnb0bICP2FekXuTWao+wL1iGm3iCUP6yk+XRqbvZYIMnXNu8F3Q4 gfaRXHzB/ZRuyAep0b8ifOfapGz8PM1i6RwKkMqde6a/Ugi4pI2wKM4IswZHf57WBsBO sTN7i+ZZvt1ML+aoGphOA7BX5jWP6RPaev6q/P6hznzXTJCrOELs6Q2HZhAv/iZCFSQr /fSiJ7y63CSZlMjDfbMHyXykloqCJP4PNVhbQI/cLH2fKA7BH0TnQzJ+A6tVPS2Qt2cB nA5g== X-Received: by 10.182.171.98 with SMTP id at2mr132021obc.4.1410047068592; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.22.18 with SMTP id z18ls538733obe.83.gmail; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.111.170 with SMTP id ij10mr11819933obb.6.1410047067953; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22d.google.com (mail-vc0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x19si213321vdi.3.2014.09.06.16.44.27 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d; Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id le20so113898vcb.18 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.132.207 with SMTP id c15mr17884091vct.12.1410047067820; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.204.203 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2856576.H4P2LYxeFd@caracal> References: <5406CBB8.20305@gmail.com> <1410012543.82278.YahooMailNeo@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2856576.H4P2LYxeFd@caracal> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 20:44:27 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: criticism of lojban needed From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134a55c98191f05026e2a97 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1134a55c98191f05026e2a97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Correction: "dl" and "tl" are permitted in Lojban if the two consonants > are in > different syllables, but not if they are both in the onset of the same > syllable. E.g. "fatlutfa'i", "badle'o". "dl" is a permitted initial in > Russian; I don't know for sure about "tl". > Random comment: If I remember correctly, every permissible CC initial pair is represented in gismu, but unfortunately not every permissible medial is. There are several gismu with tl (catlu, patlu, nutli, ...) but I think there are none with dl. It would be interesting to know how many and which valid medial CC are not represented in gismu. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1134a55c98191f05026e2a97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:=C2=A0

Correction: "dl" and "tl" are permitted in Lojba= n if the two consonants are in
different syllables, but not if they are both in the onset of the same
syllable. E.g. "fatlutfa'i", "badle'o". "d= l" is a permitted initial in
Russian; I don't know for sure about "tl".

Random comment: If I remember correctly, every permissibl= e CC initial pair is represented in gismu, but unfortunately not every perm= issible medial is. There are several gismu with tl (catlu, patlu, nutli, ..= .) but I think there are none with dl.

It would be= interesting to know how many and which valid medial CC are not represented= in gismu.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
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