Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:31:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Browne <dersaidin@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: What are the official goals of lojban?
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I think having goals is important. The references in the baseline statement 
support this opinion. 

If we wanted to specify goals for Lojban now, and preserve the existing 
language, they would have to apply retrospectively. We would need to choose 
goals such that the work done during Lojban's development is consistent 
with them.

For example, if we chose the goal "to be syntacticaly unambiguous" (or "to 
be monoparsing", if you prefer that term) the existing development would 
certainly be consistent with this example goal.
(Side note; I would probably consider the goal in this example to be an 
instrumental goal, and I would wonder if there is a terminal goal behind 
it).

So to determine (reverse engineer) retroactive goals which are consistent, 
the question then becomes:

What were the unofficial principles/reasons/explanations/justifications for 
each of Lojban's design/implementation decisions during Lojban's 
development?

This question can best be answered by those who made the design decisions 
during Lojban's development, but some (partial) answers may be able to be 
inferred or extracted from explanations in the CLL.

An answer to this question covering many design/implementation decisions 
would be much larger and more detailed than the answer to the question of 
goals. For those who made the design decisions during Lojban's development, 
it is probably more reasonable to ask a question with a more general answer:

*What were the unofficial principles applied to make design/implementation 
decisions during Lojban's development?*


Andrew / DerSaidin


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:13:22 PM UTC+10, Andrew Browne wrote:
>
>
> This best answers my original question - we currently don't have official 
> goals for the language.
>
>
> Andrew / DerSaidin
>
>
> On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:54:43 PM UTC+10, Andrew Browne wrote:
>>
>>
>> What are the official goals of lojban?
>>
>> So out of all this, what are officially the goals of lojban?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think having goals is important. The references in =
the baseline statement support this opinion.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div=
>If we wanted to specify goals for Lojban now, and preserve the existing la=
nguage, they would have to apply retrospectively. We would need to choose g=
oals such that the work done during Lojban's development is consistent with=
 them.</div><div><br></div><div>For example, if we chose the goal "to be sy=
ntacticaly unambiguous" (or "to be monoparsing", if you prefer that term) t=
he existing development would certainly be consistent with this example goa=
l.</div><div>(Side note; I would probably consider the goal in this example=
 to be an instrumental goal, and I would wonder if there is a terminal goal=
 behind it).<br></div><div><br></div><div>So to determine (reverse engineer=
) retroactive goals which are consistent, the question then becomes:</div><=
div><br></div><div>What were the unofficial principles/reasons/explanations=
/justifications for each of Lojban's design/implementation decisions during=
 Lojban's development?</div><div><br></div><div>This question can best be a=
nswered by those who made the design decisions during Lojban's development,=
 but some (partial) answers may be able to be inferred or extracted from ex=
planations in the CLL.</div><div><br></div><div>An answer to this question =
covering many design/implementation decisions would be much larger and more=
 detailed than the answer to the question of goals. For those who made the =
design decisions during Lojban's development, it is probably more reasonabl=
e to ask a question with a more general answer:</div><div><br></div><div><b=
>What were the unofficial principles applied to make design/implementation =
decisions during Lojban's development?</b><br></div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div>Andrew / DerSaidin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br>On Su=
nday, September 7, 2014 2:13:22 PM UTC+10, Andrew Browne wrote:<blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>This =
best answers my original question - we currently don't have official goals =
for the language.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Andrew / DerSaidi=
n</div><div><br></div><br>On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:54:43 PM UTC+10, Andre=
w Browne wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-l=
eft:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v><br></div><div>What are the official goals of lojban?</div><div><br></div=
><div>So out of all this, what are officially the goals of lojban?</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Thanks</div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>

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