Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:34773) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XQVF6-00084m-Gt for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:42:29 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f56.google.com with SMTP id dc16sf2880405qab.21 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:42:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3d0WNQSzHlWAzgr+ynqvuCISgGV/96urqkS/vZuImKk=; b=b8j/Q8dEVSQRuRHbeQoOqsIqhjS78VYtC7hfe+1Pg/PR8SPFCjylLMcsC/jNZ/jVbW Qm7mHtfgqSaRPt90/7KwsVCLDbu7K9ZLhYD70WWLqT2ZPy2QYYYUEZ1oosDfZVQ0kJpP OQDOD/ZSaP/YuS4lVM0lpIKEa6XTrqX58aVNDo/gHsKTAjeqEVtoDtzZKWle6G7zmKGZ KaHhtnTZ3VgpnnbPq9Tu/LSsH/m7eCWlyOg8ZtKwUZSipI4tPVGyY3SRPeu6tundj6zf A3ZDlHrqLEHzUlgnTXCgypA3Q37J4J4oRmbNLbNINRoD//kYA0d/IqJV8OBBoGbci3Fa 9lfA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3d0WNQSzHlWAzgr+ynqvuCISgGV/96urqkS/vZuImKk=; b=Shigt+dVq1X45vEAyE1iy2uhAwwINT5CD4R1ipbPbyqFaPl1liS2R03jziLTjVxW/S yWRr21f5JTs0byBSzALNJYFhXHVdqqERnNq3qzOWR2K/5oAQm+StI+7gWbFyGhdmfJ4Q S/oFJfqDlyAn+BEbTmV8ora3dXyvAcybMV1rAoSUmFrw7WN5xM8toFbSSScSZ5US4q2P qdFD0GEK7qAyNL+ts8L4tqloVlJwG8g+VAp+BhB1vtENRyQGMOYXxUbAEEEVsQ2XrH9k JZupVDQWVLs9+hDkoktywSwIuo/DPBmjkAJxWbm51D/9mvgUAWPpr8HPWFbNdcVHIK+W b1jQ== X-Received: by 10.182.186.34 with SMTP id fh2mr1974obc.21.1410068541719; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:42:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.133.105 with SMTP id pb9ls536576obb.57.gmail; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:42:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.29.106 with SMTP id j10mr8720obh.12.1410068540968; Sat, 06 Sep 2014 22:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 22:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: mukti To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5406CBB8.20305@gmail.com> <1410012543.82278.YahooMailNeo@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2856576.H4P2LYxeFd@caracal> <5f39112b-ec21-4d73-99ed-caeeb2c08991@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: criticism of lojban needed MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: shunpiker@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_351_261102998.1410068540169" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_351_261102998.1410068540169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > except that voiceless+voiced can't lamji. > The program I used to generate the clusters counted "j" as a sibilant, but not as voiced. If I add "j" to the voiced consonants, 10 unused clusters go away, leaving 19 unused out of 179 total medial clusters: - bg - bz - dl - dm - fm - fp - fx - gm - gz - jg - lz - mv - pf - px - sf - xm - xp - xt - zv {vedli} is now more or less popular. > I only checked against the 1342 gismu in the baselined list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_351_261102998.1410068540169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
except that voiceless+voiced can't= lamji.
 
The progr= am I used to generate the clusters counted "j" as a sibilant, but not as vo= iced. If I add "j" to the voiced consonants, 10 unused clusters go away, le= aving 19 unused out of 179 total medial clusters:
  • bg
    <= /li>
  • bz
  • dl
  • dm
  • fm
  • fp
    <= /li>
  • fx
  • gm
  • gz
  • jg
  • lz
    <= /li>
  • mv
  • pf
  • px
  • sf
  • xm
    <= /li>
  • xp
  • xt
  • zv 
{vedli} is now more= or less popular.

I only checke= d against the 1342 gismu in the baselined list.
 
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