Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 08:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Let it Go - In Lojban
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>   Stylisitically, I am wondering why both you, djac, and djeikon both=20
> chose to use "nelci" as a basis for "the cold never bothered me anyway",=
=20
> that is, reframing it from a non-dislike to a like, which is not=20
> equivalent.  Why not something in the nature "lo za'i lenku na'e selfanza=
=20
> mi"?
>

No good reason, I guess. I'd looked at quite a few of the official=20
translations by that point, and was mostly aiming to convey a similar=20
sentiment, rather than the exact English meaning. Incidentally, some of the=
=20
official translations of that line are quite bizarre; in French, she sings,=
=20
"Le froid est pour moi le prix de la libert=C3=A9" (roughly, "The cold is t=
he=20
price of my freedom") =E2=80=94 almost the exact opposite sentiment!

Your {fanza}-based version works really well though (perhaps with an added=
=20
'cu'). It would break the rhyme pattern in my version, and doesn't have the=
=20
end-of-line alliteration that I liked about mine, but something similar=20
could probably work.

mu'o mi'e .djeikon.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margi=
n-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; Stylisitically, I am wondering why both=
 you, djac, and djeikon both chose to use "nelci" as a basis for "the cold =
never bothered me anyway", that is, reframing it from a non-dislike to a li=
ke, which is not equivalent. &nbsp;Why not something in the nature "lo za'i=
 lenku na'e selfanza mi"?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>No good reason, I guess. I'd looked at quite a few of the official transla=
tions by that point, and was mostly aiming to convey a similar sentiment, r=
ather than the exact English meaning. Incidentally, some of the official tr=
anslations of that line are quite bizarre; in French, she sings, "Le froid =
est pour moi le prix de la libert=C3=A9" (roughly, "The cold is the price o=
f my freedom") =E2=80=94 almost the exact opposite sentiment!</div><div><br=
></div><div>Your {fanza}-based version works really well though (perhaps wi=
th an added 'cu'). It would break the rhyme pattern in my version, and does=
n't have the end-of-line alliteration that I liked about mine, but somethin=
g similar could probably work.</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e .djeikon.=
</div></div>

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