Received: from mail-ee0-f64.google.com ([74.125.83.64]:58096) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XR54F-0006ll-4n for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:39 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f64.google.com with SMTP id d49sf866186eek.19 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:organization:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=2y337jxP624BA6wJyUKZQ8bUfeAUXoiEaFHRuMk5Rfg=; b=gHqSuKlg28XTF62uEZ/E94KquDLVHe4Gpq230cPx4QrbkUFu+lEAIFZc0/2Hb3ZtcA n4TtFY0ie5yydHGAd2OAdwcwg2kZXT40h5n1q0JqcFRdUzSPdyTJo7Zx1LWjrRmdWTsZ hMMnughqVvVl2lRv66DKMKRGCVjXpjjDmT+UPeD8mKwT1Vw6/MoCALhAL5Svl0XBISby RDUGZSAeaRy3ZhR+GM+docPjDw5Y/7fIVaFBJn/tNmv/e3DjEHOTe0whTeq2LWscJ6W5 LknSlulw18IkDld0nNelElSqmazLQvZA7YOUcEO78TBHfljcqr6SHy71G82Eqgs6k1Q5 GJIw== X-Received: by 10.152.87.140 with SMTP id ay12mr25315lab.13.1410206251098; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.27.225 with SMTP id w1ls435946lag.2.gmail; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.6.195 with SMTP id d3mr9921laa.10.1410206250228; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl. [217.74.65.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si1352336lbd.1.2014.09.08.12.57.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.234; X-Interia-R: Interia X-Interia-R-IP: 178.42.76.231 X-Interia-R-Helo: Received: from zx-spectrum-1.localnet (afmy231.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [178.42.76.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:57:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Krzysztof Sobolewski To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] a Fullerian insight for jbopre Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: <12823553.MZuJQVC9Bs@zx-spectrum-1> Organization: Sobole User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.14.3; KDE/4.14.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <2b69296c-5b79-4364-93b4-8dc6f8bf64d9@googlegroups.com> References: <1595141.LRWboYDpiD@zx-spectrum-1> <2b69296c-5b79-4364-93b4-8dc6f8bf64d9@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl; dkim=fail (test mode) header.i=@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Dnia poniedzia=B3ek, 8 wrze=B6nia 2014 12:41:52 TR NS pisze: >=20 > On Monday, September 8, 2014 1:26:20 PM UTC-4, jezuch wrote: > > > > > > If he was Polish he wouldn't have to invent these. In the Polish langua= ge=20 > > "weapon" is "bro=F1" which has the same root as "broni=E6", meaning "to= defend,=20 > > to prevent". But wait! It goes deeper! "To arm" is "zbroi=E6" which has= the=20 > > same root as "zbroja", meaning "an armor". But does that mean we're all= =20 > > pacifist? Heck no ;) That's one of the reasons that in my very humble= =20 > > opinion Fuller was wrong, or at least criminally simplistic.=20 > > >=20 > That's a rather broad opinion, considering Fuller said many things. So=20 > wrong about what? Well, I'm only responding to the cited fragments :) And perhaps I should st= op there before I embarass myself ;) --=20 Ecce Jezuch "I went in killing the sun I once one" - T. Meeks --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.