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On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> One possible solution could have been making a lujvo from {me}, but it
> turns out that {me} has no rafsi. As for using {zei} (me zei ckaji or
> whatever), this doesn't look like a very appealing solution for such a
> basic and frequent predicate, as the resulting lexeme would be likely at
> least four syllables long.
>

"se zei me" would only be three syllables...

Another possibility would be making an experimental gismu or a zi'evla.
> Running la gimyzba on the translations of "among" in the 8~12 largest world
> languages gives me {menre} as the best-scoring gismu form that doesn't
> clash with any official gismu. ("menre" mostly comes etymologically from
> the Spanish "entre", the Hindi "mem/men", the English "among" and the
> Russian "sredi".)
>

I'm not against it. "se menre" is not shorter than "se zei me", but it may
be clearer.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ilmen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
One possible solution could have been making a lujvo from {me}, but it turn=
s out that {me} has no rafsi. As for using {zei} (me zei ckaji or whatever)=
, this doesn&#39;t look like a very appealing solution for such a basic and=
 frequent predicate, as the resulting lexeme would be likely at least four =
syllables long.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;se zei me&quot; w=
ould only be three syllables...</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
Another possibility would be making an experimental gismu or a zi&#39;evla.=
 Running la gimyzba on the translations of &quot;among&quot; in the 8~12 la=
rgest world languages gives me {menre} as the best-scoring gismu form that =
doesn&#39;t clash with any official gismu. (&quot;menre&quot; mostly comes =
etymologically from the Spanish &quot;entre&quot;, the Hindi &quot;mem/men&=
quot;, the English &quot;among&quot; and the Russian &quot;sredi&quot;.)<br=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not against it. &quot;se menre&qu=
ot; is not shorter than &quot;se zei me&quot;, but it may be clearer.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></di=
v></div>

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