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On 9/10/2014 5:57 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder
> - LLG <lojbab@lojban.org <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:
>
>       I am pretty sure that I would misuse xorlo, if only because I
>     don't know when NOT to use "lo".
>
> It's very easy: always use "lo", you never have to use any other gadri.

Then "lo" is not veridical, and it does not mean what it used to mean.=20
Because sometimes, what I have in mind is NOT what I describe it to be.=20
  "The blue house" that I have in mind is actually multicolored, with=20
blue merely distinguishing it from some other house that isn't as=20
obviously (to me) described as "blue"

>         I believe And may be thinking of something like "mi nelci le nu
>         limna"
>         for "I like swimming". The problem with "le" here is that when
>         you say
>         "I like swimming" you don't have a particular event of swimming
>         in mind,
>         so why would you use "le"?
>
>
>     le is not necessarily singular (or plural), but I certainly have
>     some concept of what events of swimming (that I am fond of) are, and
>     I am, referring to one or more of such events.
>
> With CLL-le you were saying that you like each one of them, right. but
> the point is that that's not what "I like swimming" means.

I like each act that I am describing to be an event of swimming, which=20
acts may or may not actually be acts of swimming, and are almost=20
certainly a tiny fraction of all possible events that someone might=20
describe as events of swimming.

> Perhaps it's even more clear in the negative: compare  "mi na nelci le
> nu limna" vs "I don't like swimming".

Not more clear for the same reason.  The events are those that I don't=20
like but am describing as events of swimming.

lojbab

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