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[68.230.241.218]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i4si101169qcm.0.2014.09.13.14.39.08 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=68.230.241.218; Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140913213908.ZZYQ2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:39:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id qlf81o0071LDWBL01lf8Cs; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:39:08 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.5414B97C.0061,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H/cFNZki c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=3nxpHsJdzcUA:10 a=VxwYiO3ECrQA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=g2s195oqAAAA:8 a=RC8dF5TjRuZhdXO9rroA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=oyIj4lfPLBQA:10 a=dxBpO5_FDU0A:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <5414B97E.8050502@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:39:10 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership References: <25B055499F67420FA34794323F9A95AB@gmail.com> <540B374A.9040409@lojban.org> <540B8D1B.8050807@gmail.com> <540F391F.5050002@lojban.org> <540F6802.3070709@gmail.com> <5410B7BF.9030005@lojban.org> <5411FCE9.3090907@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 9/12/2014 1:57 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > 2014-09-11 23:50 GMT+04:00 Robert LeChevalier >: > > On 9/11/2014 2:16 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > I don't know how many people already bought CLL > > > Over 1000 but less than 1250. Probably at least that many > downloaded/printed the online version(s), or read it online. > > For online readers the immediate solution should be to add "How to use > xorlo" amendment as a separate super-short chapter to the book. > There is a page "Errata" in the tiki. You may say that "How to use > xorlo" is kind of an erratum (when viewed from today). > > I think it's no hard to implement. > The two most important versions are: > http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter1.html > and > http://lojban.github.io/cll/ > > *Don't you think LLG should order to change them NOW?* > This would at least stop xorlo schism for online learners who haven't > bought a paperback edition. I don't have a strong opinion. xorlo was adopted provisionally, and therefore should be added to the baseline documentation, but Robin is the one to decide how it is added. If the old stuff is invalidated, it probably needs to be documented just what is invalid, which is why I have long argued for a complete set of change pages. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.