Received: from mail-wi0-f190.google.com ([209.85.212.190]:53887) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XT67N-00072R-Aj for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:15 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f190.google.com with SMTP id ho1sf214721wib.27 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xv26yff8fREP9iXOWrYnG8HEuugzCKxKuxvr8ir44Go=; b=ue34fAZ6gPw3lotXFMuNdP6Lw1TXKJK1IRgm/M4wYyqPVVTFFZ8HQg8ZxPNQgx1P4P DyIl8upuQVH9vbTZndSVUf/Lw7nMT1WEB2SFLkb2ww+GxlMjB0hIT3GDUed8bVurgg4S 1JmbaczKRGsLK17MlwfWC9g/WHuScLBDhlb+ov00X97gjOyLbyVrLEkdzTY2sOmR7tyx B7awPR4XVEB/Q9dTosNiAMWC2yaqgwz6+wUDlRKe3Inwfwo6fV5BPqqU8iT2AJF6T4bP z2nKQ8fCYyD1+UKbBNiqpSO43m+oziod7v3Z+NYcv8TRI4iGSLaZhowY/FPM4oJ/1HfV ag1w== X-Received: by 10.152.43.43 with SMTP id t11mr284840lal.4.1410686946209; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.22.130 with SMTP id d2ls244408laf.98.gmail; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.18.199 with SMTP id y7mr6458lad.9.1410686944881; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si1530926lbd.1.2014.09.14.02.29.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dlacewell@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c; Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id mc6so3181249lab.3 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.37.169 with SMTP id z9mr1899601laj.66.1410686944775; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.168.75 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <25B055499F67420FA34794323F9A95AB@gmail.com> <540B374A.9040409@lojban.org> <540B8D1B.8050807@gmail.com> <540F391F.5050002@lojban.org> <540F6802.3070709@gmail.com> <5410B7BF.9030005@lojban.org> <5411FCE9.3090907@lojban.org> <5414B97E.8050502@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership From: Dustin Lacewell To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: DLacewell@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dlacewell@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dlacewell@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e014940523b943d05030326fe X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e014940523b943d05030326fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Gleki, If all you have left is the tried and wearied approach of accusing others of destroying the langauge and driving out speakers then ... wait that's what essentially every argument you put forth is founded on. You can wave your hands and talk about some unnamed people I've 'driven out' at the same time I point to the speakers I've brought to the language. "Please, change your attitude." My attitude is a direct response to being diminished and dismissed. I'll change it when that changes. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:53 AM, And Rosta wrote: > On 14 Sep 2014 09:16, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > > (it's not a secret that the intensity of community work has dropped > since 2003 which was shown earlier by la mukti's historical studies). > > What and where are these historical studies? 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Gleki,

If all you have left is the trie= d and wearied approach of accusing others of destroying the langauge and dr= iving out speakers then ... wait that's what essentially every argument= you put forth is founded on. You can wave your hands and talk about some u= nnamed people I've 'driven out' at the same time I point to the= speakers I've brought to the language.

"= P= lease, change your attitude."

My attitude is a direct response to being di= minished and dismissed. I'll change it when that changes.
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On Sun, Sep = 14, 2014 at 1:53 AM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote= :

On 14 S= ep 2014 09:16, "Gleki Arxokuna" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote= :
> (it's not a secret that the intensity of community work has droppe= d since 2003 which was shown earlier by la mukti's historical studies).=

What and where are these historical studies? Was 2003= the historical peak?

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