Received: from mail-oi0-f59.google.com ([209.85.218.59]:51257) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTJPH-00038I-Rx for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:36 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f59.google.com with SMTP id v63sf658132oia.4 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=heYL9pPZypjWVThmcXMLvN0NYYDJ1rOZf/H8nZMtY8U=; b=kTQi5/CU8iyzDN4YENBf5ryl74/uZFsLhwxwZZmTgyWD+huM7ACPkvDylukB5jBfWL a6xKMggUWaL/AHi3gbMMPxYcXFoOFHvvoq6Bi8QWgdx3Cm1D6uM/IHLIQRfTce7wJVQu NEg7SUsEpBfVCO//pTeJqrJhzBhaWLS9UsUVJEon/b4wByGcLukQ2LUqC8W3K9x2646Y 0yEpE2duiP9iMwZhIcRABC809pCcGfiuIPlEyOtGZZwHLj1JwtgieUzwABZIt/yRSUmV i/ZAmHhPIK24uKJN2h9TzwzljRqY/Tx97txOtI1jf4Js5oy/Aw29H1V7omoQISUJ+DRz caAg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=heYL9pPZypjWVThmcXMLvN0NYYDJ1rOZf/H8nZMtY8U=; b=MBHL039gOjGELwXg3KNft5zZVLAhMWEfzfhy331rz9C5rBHq8wX/vtNivvxlY6xniB Se0GaDcgzAXMNVzDWXPBwAUCLH4KD21ijfDajh9nv/HtPsAday0TW4oB9GFYyVZvbIqd 71xiVGv9MLj5LVvCo4714nDJWq8rvsDG6S4Txtg/RE91nT05JfqLLRDfEqOziMlSfY2U 2PZil9mk4j6/lHnI69d3iRGGiOx6qMV9p4EaUQ+zaiIGCfCM8NI0SduO72ZapkqY7Vlo 4L/4PH700guYxCU/Tskr69pvKe7R2DNssgi+x4liF5dgzs+DFAnej5NqMZ21dH6T03Qk D5zA== X-Received: by 10.140.30.36 with SMTP id c33mr433821qgc.2.1410738029299; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.88.84 with SMTP id s78ls1300846qgd.22.gmail; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.108.74 with SMTP id i68mr386710qgf.1.1410738028918; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <5c606924-98a9-4653-a802-fccbede82a53@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20140914182624.GB5873@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20140910173804.GP30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20140910233108.GD30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20140911005841.GF30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20140911023800.GG30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20140912181104.GH30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <984b6369-540d-4559-8703-640774f5666c@googlegroups.com> <20140914133015.GJ30324@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20140914182624.GB5873@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The CLL project, technical directions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1882_1215942785.1410738028464" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1882_1215942785.1410738028464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:26:28 PM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 09:29:46AM -0700, TR NS wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:30:18 AM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote: > > > > > > > > > That sounds like you're talking about doing it by hand? > > > > > > If so, I think you're badly underestimating how cross-reference > > > heavy (i.e. index and glossary entries) this book is; that's a > > > staggering amount of work. > > > > > > More importantly, the problem with by-hand changes is that it's hard > > > to demonstrate that the *content* hasn't changed. I would > > > definitely consider the burden of proof that the text is all the > > > same to be on you in that case. > > > > > > > > Here's a preliminary example of chapter > > 1: https://github.com/trans/cll/blob/markdown/source/01.md (better to > look > > at it in raw format in you favorite text editor though) > > Without intending to discount your hard work, the source is not all > that interesting to me; how do the HTML and PDF outputs look? > > Ah. I was wondering if maybe I wasn't being clear. Sorry. This has little if any impact on the output. That would be exactly the same as it is now. The markdown is only acting as an initial format. It gets transformed into HTML/XML. Then with a few additional rules (e.g. `p` == `para`) this is then transformed by the same means that have been used (docbook) or you are working on (Ruby). It's no different. The markdown is just another layer to top to make the source formats more human friendly. 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On Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:26:28 PM UTC-4, Ro= bin Powell wrote:
On Sun, Sep 1= 4, 2014 at 09:29:46AM -0700, TR NS wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:30:18 AM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote= :
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> > That sounds like you're talking about doing it by hand?=20
> >
> > If so, I think you're badly underestimating how cross-referen= ce=20
> > heavy (i.e. index and glossary entries) this book is; that's = a=20
> > staggering amount of work.=20
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> > More importantly, the problem with by-hand changes is that it= 's hard=20
> > to demonstrate that the *content* hasn't changed.  I wou= ld=20
> > definitely consider the burden of proof that the text is all = the=20
> > same to be on you in that case.=20
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> Here's a preliminary example of chapter=20
> 1: https:/= /github.com/trans/cll/blob/markdown/source/01.md (better to look= =20
> at it in raw format in you favorite text editor though)

Without intending to discount your hard work, the source is not all
that interesting to me; how do the HTML and PDF outputs look?


Ah. I was wondering if maybe I wasn't = being clear. Sorry.

This has little if any impact = on the output. That would be exactly the same as it is now. The markdown is= only acting as an initial format. It gets transformed into HTML/XML. Then = with a few additional rules (e.g. `p` =3D=3D `para`) this is then transform= ed by the same means that have been used (docbook) or you are working on (R= uby). It's no different. The markdown is just another layer to top to make = the source formats more human friendly. (Which, after all, is what markup f= ormats like markdown are all about).

I hope that c= larifies things.


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