Received: from mail-ig0-f192.google.com ([209.85.213.192]:48114) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTXQr-0004ZJ-26 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:10 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f192.google.com with SMTP id hn15sf819108igb.19 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/OnNUv+wvQzm28Py0QfZZwop6HezKA9C/Pzb60T+XFY=; b=NdsfSbuhdjSll1+T3fMjbqW4VdBwrXs0seu4BtaK8Oz6kspZxBD6jIpAQIQVRKFI2I wHlqt3zuusB3PHMkulO/JZfvbDQe8qHvS8SNA3uJnlkyntktFk9rLHa58a8ZUzCQlfML bHMmF2FZDtUCm6IHans8WVRzLoDiSNtPpk0hOT+AQ4IVgPQILP69GFpWmt4z4JAkcOVZ gYpugu75kz9E+H/eLoR5gOhqsXOg6oiHjGGd5wyZeiTCbzkziq3tkI6YObQU5spir6Sz oaf+x06M5KNEOcs+wnSIFlo3k/H676QrKmi8+eGj7JtVZS7rEwfK/IfwvcNW2i8gZJlp 2UUA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/OnNUv+wvQzm28Py0QfZZwop6HezKA9C/Pzb60T+XFY=; b=Snov0XK+/B8wMRtTqh3EVW6njNWPmH9HUIndDHLzfVlShhpvfTWbL1lemKL6UPbutH rmwPetj2QpNuPflw5bPlPT8ScAAdtjKxdMKCclVf54hezYkrKBEvynGiF/0pi19L69GU 9veBjjEruFSxSArBwyEXTJoatlIBO7Nx9vrpvJ+BXu3o91MD7qd0tU5UgKkselunqA0H VwvSF6Y6Xea1Eo7dHjHM+Xyqjru7OLCIVFJinLCGqtecbPzCEX2bhUEIbX4/Re7m3pkC YE/KSiwI3fZazCUr7/ZHEmmMg6TkwRZvQ1U1q1MqTzv5RLFpZqhVk+dTO/hVsm+Wt1Ca I8sA== X-Received: by 10.140.47.20 with SMTP id l20mr9924qga.39.1410791942580; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.30.195 with SMTP id d61ls1523914qgd.68.gmail; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.95.235 with SMTP id i98mr11225qge.22.1410791942224; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban] Logos Initiative MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82_1482833649.1410791941736" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_82_1482833649.1410791941736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 After reading the Leadership thread and many other old threads on this list, and taking into account my own views on these matters, which appear to be shared by a number of others, I have concluded that it is not unreasonable to begin a new logical language project. To this end I have started the Logos Initiative and Logla Prime (https://github.com/LogosInitiative/logla). The intent of this initiative is to use a modern open source development model to build a new mainline logical language --in part a reconciliation between Loglan and Lojban, and via this model manage the evolution of that language. This is not something I have started lightly, but rather because I think it important. I think the world needs a strongly evolving constructed and logical language. One that continues to push the boundaries toward greater perfection in human communication. I believe this new initiative will be of actual benefit to Lojban and the LLG as it will free the LLG to focus on the promotion of Lojban as a language of everyday communication rather than worry with the heavy barrage of linguistic "tinkering". The initiative is, obviously, in its earliest stages. At this point, it needs the aid of committed and capable persons to chair the supervisory committee, expand the website, flesh out bylaws, and to the wider community of logical language enthusiasts, to submit proposals. Communication is facilitated via Github issues (https://github.com/LogosInitiative/logla/issues) and the Google Group (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/logla). I hope this initiative is received in a positive light, even by those that may feel a bit ruffled by it. In the end, it surely must be a more constructive approach than continually arguing against changes to Lojban. .io .trans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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After reading the Leadership thread and many other ol= d threads on this list, and taking into account my own views on these matte= rs, which appear to be shared by a number of others, I have concluded that = it is not unreasonable to begin a new logical language project. To this end= I have started the Logos Initiative and Logla Prime (https://github.com/Lo= gosInitiative/logla).

The intent of this initiativ= e is to use a modern open source development model to build a new mainline = logical language --in part a reconciliation between Loglan and Lojban, and = via this model manage the evolution of that language. This is not something= I have started lightly, but rather because I think it important. I think t= he world needs a strongly evolving constructed and logical language. One th= at continues to push the boundaries toward greater perfection in human comm= unication.

I believe this new initiative will be o= f actual benefit to Lojban and the LLG as it will free the LLG to focus on = the promotion of Lojban as a language of everyday communication rather than= worry with the heavy barrage of linguistic "tinkering".

The initiative is, obviously, in its earliest stages. At this point,= it needs the aid of committed and capable persons to chair the supervisory= committee, expand the website, flesh out bylaws, and to the wider communit= y of logical language enthusiasts, to submit proposals. Communication is fa= cilitated via Github issues (https://github.com/LogosInitiative/logla/issue= s) and the Google Group (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/logla).

I hope this initiative is received in a positive lig= ht, even by those that may feel a bit ruffled by it. In the end, it surely = must be a more constructive approach than continually arguing against chang= es to Lojban.

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