Received: from mail-wg0-f56.google.com ([74.125.82.56]:39710) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTXVV-0004ct-I2 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:44:00 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f56.google.com with SMTP id y10sf342396wgg.11 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8taR7OtJHDP4VOFa1yojeSBl1T3Ou7J4T+DgHtU3oIE=; b=yKhSTyEruUP9YPunJ2bx+t9k5lprLM8OI4yX/I8rg9vb9XMgWH8eqHVKOZTJ6o0Jwi NzWuIBR5GNDLUw7xLA12co4C/4A6P4nzSqOjvDLGIwwzE94Ngi/v+wun+wsKKfWjW/A1 7DG3lJJgsueloBO325hrotwMe1pUjMSusbyK9M/f5RtbRklBDIiCJKb/sScACdK2iOU0 Zxe2zwaE0jdHrcJbC1vLBTYomcky+PM1DZEKr5w1e+OOKe5koSb8QIOs3B/qP7Ch4lEI tvC5nje1YeYZIDzBgs7/bycW+6K7Qqw2k4E0ezGjicoJpSf1XTa+v0pbirKZjZ2bvbFk xzDA== X-Received: by 10.152.42.140 with SMTP id o12mr6842lal.29.1410792230511; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.170.166 with SMTP id an6ls382600lac.71.gmail; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.1.6 with SMTP id 6mr7256465lai.3.1410792229737; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x242.google.com (mail-wi0-x242.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::242]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gg11si617931wic.0.2014.09.15.07.43.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::242 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::242; Received: by mail-wi0-x242.google.com with SMTP id n3so1932786wiv.9 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.95.8 with SMTP id dg8mr34585251wjb.1.1410792229597; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:43:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:43:49 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Logos Initiative From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0f56b27a8c05031ba979 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bdc0f56b27a8c05031ba979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This *is *a solution to what poses problems for some of us. Note that it'd be reasonable to create a converter between Lojban and this new Loglan'2014 because there are a lot of texts in Lojban and since both language have/will have a formal syntax you'd probably need to quickly generate its own corpus of texts. 2014-09-15 18:39 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > After reading the Leadership thread and many other old threads on this > list, and taking into account my own views on these matters, which appear > to be shared by a number of others, I have concluded that it is not > unreasonable to begin a new logical language project. To this end I have > started the Logos Initiative and Logla Prime ( > https://github.com/LogosInitiative/logla). > > The intent of this initiative is to use a modern open source development > model to build a new mainline logical language --in part a reconciliation > between Loglan and Lojban, and via this model manage the evolution of that > language. This is not something I have started lightly, but rather because > I think it important. I think the world needs a strongly evolving > constructed and logical language. One that continues to push the boundaries > toward greater perfection in human communication. > > I believe this new initiative will be of actual benefit to Lojban and the > LLG as it will free the LLG to focus on the promotion of Lojban as a > language of everyday communication rather than worry with the heavy barrage > of linguistic "tinkering". > > The initiative is, obviously, in its earliest stages. At this point, it > needs the aid of committed and capable persons to chair the supervisory > committee, expand the website, flesh out bylaws, and to the wider community > of logical language enthusiasts, to submit proposals. Communication is > facilitated via Github issues ( > https://github.com/LogosInitiative/logla/issues) and the Google Group ( > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/logla). > > I hope this initiative is received in a positive light, even by those that > may feel a bit ruffled by it. In the end, it surely must be a more > constructive approach than continually arguing against changes to Lojban. > > .io > .trans. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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This is a solution to what poses problems for some = of us.

Note that it'd be reasonable to create a conv= erter between Lojban and this new Loglan'2014 because there are a lot o= f texts in Lojban and since both language have/will have a formal syntax yo= u'd probably need to quickly generate its own corpus of texts.

2014-09-15 18:= 39 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:
After reading the Leadership thread= and many other old threads on this list, and taking into account my own vi= ews on these matters, which appear to be shared by a number of others, I ha= ve concluded that it is not unreasonable to begin a new logical language pr= oject. To this end I have started the Logos Initiative and Logla Prime (https:/= /github.com/LogosInitiative/logla).

The intent= of this initiative is to use a modern open source development model to bui= ld a new mainline logical language --in part a reconciliation between Logla= n and Lojban, and via this model manage the evolution of that language. Thi= s is not something I have started lightly, but rather because I think it im= portant. I think the world needs a strongly evolving constructed and logica= l language. One that continues to push the boundaries toward greater perfec= tion in human communication.

I believe this new in= itiative will be of actual benefit to Lojban and the LLG as it will free th= e LLG to focus on the promotion of Lojban as a language of everyday communi= cation rather than worry with the heavy barrage of linguistic "tinkeri= ng".

The initiative is, obviously, in its ear= liest stages. At this point, it needs the aid of committed and capable pers= ons to chair the supervisory committee, expand the website, flesh out bylaw= s, and to the wider community of logical language enthusiasts, to submit pr= oposals. Communication is facilitated via Github issues (https://github.= com/LogosInitiative/logla/issues) and the Google Group (https://groups= .google.com/forum/#!forum/logla).

I hope this = initiative is received in a positive light, even by those that may feel a b= it ruffled by it. In the end, it surely must be a more constructive approac= h than continually arguing against changes to Lojban.

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