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2014-09-16 20:53 GMT+04:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <
lojbab@lojban.org>:

> On 9/15/2014 11:14 AM, 'John E Clifford' via lojban wrote:
>
>> Yes, the proliferation problem is a serious one.  There are a half a
>> dozen logical languages (in the present sense) around in various stages
>> of development (mostly early) and activity (mostly slight).  This new
>> enterprise seems to be driven less by the old "perfection being the
>> enemy of the good" bugbear and more by frustration with bureaucratic
>> inertia (though, interestingly, the first step in the project is to set
>> up a new bureaucracy).  Personally, though I am perfection-driven, I
>> have decided that it is a better use of time and talent (a lot of the
>> one, a little of the other) to work with a nearly completed project in
>> the hope that it will mange to get completed into a product that is good
>> enough (does all the crucial things, even if in sloppy, inefficient,
>> even ugly, ways).
>>
>
Provided both languages have a formal syntax and a clearly defined
connection between the two dictionaries it won't matter a lot what language
will be spoken since the machine translation will be 100% precise under
such circumstances.


> I think you are correct.  I can imagine a successor to Lojban emerging in
> the future, perhaps being developed by people using Lojban rather than
> English as the medium of communication, which incidentally might reduce the
> likelihood of dominance by English native speakers.
>
> But I won't be involved in such a successor effort.  And the inherent
> competition between artificial languages for the limited pool of interested
> people and their time means that I cannot wish such an effort to be
> successful so long as Lojban has a chance to be.
>
> lojbab
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-09-16 20:53 GMT+04:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><spa=
n class=3D"">On 9/15/2014 11:14 AM, &#39;John E Clifford&#39; via lojban wr=
ote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
Yes, the proliferation problem is a serious one.=C2=A0 There are a half a<b=
r>
dozen logical languages (in the present sense) around in various stages<br>
of development (mostly early) and activity (mostly slight).=C2=A0 This new<=
br>
enterprise seems to be driven less by the old &quot;perfection being the<br=
>
enemy of the good&quot; bugbear and more by frustration with bureaucratic<b=
r>
inertia (though, interestingly, the first step in the project is to set<br>=
</span>
up a new bureaucracy).=C2=A0 Personally, though I am perfection-driven, I<s=
pan class=3D""><br>
have decided that it is a better use of time and talent (a lot of the<br>
one, a little of the other) to work with a nearly completed project in<br>
the hope that it will mange to get completed into a product that is good<br=
>
enough (does all the crucial things, even if in sloppy, inefficient,<br>
even ugly, ways).<br></span></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>P=
rovided both languages have a formal syntax and a clearly defined connectio=
n between the two dictionaries it won&#39;t matter a lot what language will=
 be spoken since the machine translation will be 100% precise under such ci=
rcumstances.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
</span></blockquote>
<br>
I think you are correct.=C2=A0 I can imagine a successor to Lojban emerging=
 in the future, perhaps being developed by people using Lojban rather than =
English as the medium of communication, which incidentally might reduce the=
 likelihood of dominance by English native speakers.<br>
<br>
But I won&#39;t be involved in such a successor effort.=C2=A0 And the inher=
ent competition between artificial languages for the limited pool of intere=
sted people and their time means that I cannot wish such an effort to be su=
ccessful so long as Lojban has a chance to be.<br>
<br>
lojbab<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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