Received: from mail-oa0-f60.google.com ([209.85.219.60]:40472) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTwR3-0003v0-QE for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:21:03 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f60.google.com with SMTP id i7sf29856oag.5 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BUBGDDAMk38ve594FBtk8extVx1ewn5MfPdCZ+7ziDE=; b=CZZ0f/nfYo8Cmm4dau3JUgXDJzCLsXweQBn4h9aO3wuGyzzGSsmEaP8JKcb/nOwIMG kDv7a/C3CRqpabtZsGGaWwzSkq5EUm3QjyQ+9nPDsEFTaSUaGDSRynuMQ84Okh52XOIq 77AIFXfdosy4A1emFwbedB/9Nq8EBa2m7/Tw48PhBK28HWwpFixkh6RQuBlDqqH0tlFI R147Yf7pu2FXTOH87PjM3Kt5NcQG0NyxlVeFARkNccchqK9PIqH8Ho2wwqDvu2vLbMZV /P8dP9DpsHUNqLEno4BwN7vhaC/cv/vKXMLszJSZC0Yq57pxT3vlcigkxxXWrWFKD2i+ J/cg== X-Received: by 10.140.86.106 with SMTP id o97mr21491qgd.25.1410888055351; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.106.136 with SMTP id e8ls18020qgf.36.gmail; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.181.200 with SMTP id dy8mr897971vdc.8.1410888055017; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net. [68.230.241.216]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t6si1080799qcd.0.2014.09.16.10.20.54 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=68.230.241.216; Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140916172054.YTXT31475.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:20:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id rtLt1o00b1LDWBL01tLt9Q; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:20:54 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.54187176.0053,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=c+p1t2Bl c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=RpE3YcRdmCsA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=_y0jyK_Mc7osE2FH0qsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <54187177.1060607@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:20:55 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Logos Initiative References: <541714B1.9080300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 9/15/2014 5:45 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Admittedly, I don't think it very likely that a change proposal for the > morphology would be very likely, but again, that really depends on the > change itself. I mean, everyone knows the mekso portion of it is > completely borked right now, so if someone managed to come up with a > mekso that wasn't, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it voted in. *I* don't know that mekso is borked. I rather strongly suspect that we overdesigned it to handle *everything* that could be expressed in formulaic forms (because that was a fundamental requirement), and very few people know why much of the design is there (since rarely does anyone use more than one formulaic notation at a time). A much simpler subset of Mex is what should be taught, leaving the bulk of it to deal with stuff that is rarely used, but retaining it for when someone wants to express APL (the programming language) in Lojban, compare Polish and reverse Polish notation schema, or to talk about combining "an exaltation of doves" with "a gaggle of geese". lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.