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On 9/15/2014 8:39 PM, TR NS wrote:
> I just don't see it happening. Even if you get this documentation work
> complete, the next edition of CLL is going to have to be printed next
> year. So only some minor adjustments are going to make it into that. And
> once printed, it will set the baseline for the next decade at least.

No. CLL 1.1 is NOT intended to sit around for a decade, but to serve as 
the basis for discussing the proposals that people want considered.  If 
those proposals are well-documented, I could imagine CLL 1.1 be replaced 
by CLL 2.0 within a couple of years at most.

> Anything more than a minor proposal after it will be immediately hit
> with the argument that people are relying on the stability of the new
> CLL. By the time the next edition needs to be printed (in 2030?)

We aren't doing a print run of 1500 books.  Indeed, CLL 1.1 might be 
published only by Print-on-Demand, like the introductory book available 
through Lightning Source (though, we may need to make it hardbound 
simply because of page count.)

> The bottom line is that ideas like a morphology that doesn't require
> stress to parse, or the use of the final vowel to indicate sumti
> position, or a simplified rafsi system that doesn't require
> memorization, and so on, are simply never going to be given
> consideration.

Probably true.  It's also likely that such an effort would not be 
considered enough like Loglan/Lojban to warrant calling them a 
"derivation".  English is after all a derivation of Indo-European, and 
more recently Old English, but relatively few people care to learn 
anything about those predecessors.

lojbab

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