Received: from mail-oi0-f60.google.com ([209.85.218.60]:53744) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTwxR-00049a-Qb for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:31 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f60.google.com with SMTP id a141sf10606oig.25 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=figknCEnfl3Lxn9XZWQ9pPTbPwM/E2B3ZaEShDMPED4=; b=XLwmeFzgaEbis2PLTnU6Gx5debZeyqqmzlSiGrsNbax/MrD9+AWNlfcT5URQnROFWE cBrMFYaIJzZVEKYnzFXgU8pVy54hFMn6mVtTDVnD1QqwXd+jYIXyNwEObmpPhnbqsRKF bI+oy38S0FFI+exwXOfJjpCKvzf+HGc/MbzGxzDbxVt3XuONHNR2qnQADvecTOoTgmJv SvyX6Ro78olPs323/pR+bzrBfeMwdz2RON91G9RIwasYQ3/S5vlrDZyZYSWvMd+kqhdw Xb2BthAcimjZYc3f4UWrefmH2ChCOJ1jw6MIIauIqId4vPB9gsjmiWXxSacKILpILYUt 9BGQ== X-Received: by 10.50.92.40 with SMTP id cj8mr3926igb.14.1410890063312; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.40 with SMTP id e8ls2882446igc.7.canary; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.100.196 with SMTP id fa4mr20660481pab.11.1410890062950; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22c.google.com (mail-qg0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ld1si1903258qcb.3.2014.09.16.10.54.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c; Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f51so312656qge.3 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.28.133 with SMTP id m5mr48210597qac.16.1410890062805; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.201.74 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <863e6344-9008-44be-8546-eed800c0a630@googlegroups.com> References: <5ebfd7de-df4d-4bac-90e9-08d182557c8c@googlegroups.com> <863e6344-9008-44be-8546-eed800c0a630@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:54:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Growth and decline in lojbanistan From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1db7002c353050332711e X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c1db7002c353050332711e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM, mukti wrote: > The only user I have tracked during this period who does not show this > pattern is *gejyspa*, who posted a steady 250-275 messages from > 2002-2004, and whose output actually peaked in 2006 with more than 400 > messages. Like the others, however, he fell below 100 messages in 2007. > Actually, you won't find any output from me before 2005, so I'm not sure how you are gathering those stats. I only found lojban then, while searching the internet for whatever happened to Loglan, which I had learned in the mid 1970s.. For me personally, my first contacts on irc were extremely negative. Other than a very few people such as clsn and Adam Lopresto, I found the folks inhabiting it at the time very condescending, rude and dismissive. Almost chucked lojban altogether. Stayed off irc for about six months after that. Stuck more the beginner's mailing list, where I found people like xorxes very willing to help newbies. I changed jobs in 2007, no longer working from home, so no longer had the time that I had previously to be active in lojbanistan. Now e-mail hell is hitting me hard (I'm actually only up to reading June 19 email, but made an exception for this thread :-) --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c1db7002c353050332711e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM, mukti <shunpiker@gmail.com> wrote:
The only user I have trac= ked during this period who does not show this pattern is gejyspa, wh= o posted a steady 250-275 messages from 2002-2004, and whose output actuall= y peaked in 2006 with more than 400 messages. Like the others, however, he = fell below 100 messages in 2007.

=C2= =A0 Actually, you won't find any output from me before 2005, so I'm= not sure how you are gathering those stats. =C2=A0I only found lojban then= , while searching the internet for whatever happened to Loglan, which I had= learned in the mid 1970s..

=C2=A0 For me personal= ly, my first contacts on irc were extremely negative. =C2=A0Other than a ve= ry few people such as clsn and Adam Lopresto, I found the folks inhabiting = it at the time very condescending, rude and dismissive. =C2=A0Almost chucke= d lojban altogether. =C2=A0Stayed off irc for about six months after that. = =C2=A0Stuck more the beginner's mailing list, where I found people like= xorxes very willing to help newbies.

=C2=A0 I cha= nged jobs in 2007, no longer working from home, =C2=A0so no longer had the = time that I had previously to be active in lojbanistan.

=C2=A0 Now e-mail hell is hitting me hard (I'm actually only up t= o reading June 19 email, but made an exception for this thread :-)=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--ge= jyspa



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