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From: la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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On Friday, September 29, 1995 6:25:11 AM UTC+4, jo...@phyast.pitt.edu wrote:
>
> Goran:
> > 2) About dimensions:
> > Mathematically speaking, there are several things that get the name, and 
> sorry
> > if my terminology sounds a bit nonstandard, it's probably because it is:
> >   a) as in "dimension of the space V": number of base vectors (dim V)
> >   b) "dimensions of an object": any arbitrary vectors forming a base in
> >      which the object can be represented.
> > So, mu'a, the ball has one dimension-in-sense-a), it is 3.
> > It has 3 dimensions-in-sense-b) REGARDED TOGETHER.
> > It has infinite number of POSSIBLE vectors that COULD go in its base.
> > So, you can't say that there exist exactly three vectors (or properties,
> > more generally) that are dimensions of lo balci.
>
> I agree with that. Now, what does {cimde} mean? It obviously is not
> sense (a), since its x1 is not a number.
>
> So, is {lo cimde} a vector of a base, or a complete base? I think we
> can probably solve it by letting it be one of the vectors, and putting
> the whole base in x3.
>

Excuse me, how can we expand cimde3 with something meaningful?


So, after all, it _is_ true that exactly three things are dimensions
> of lo bolci... in a given base. {de zo'u ci da cimde lo bolci de}.
>
> > 3) About sumti and quoting: zo'onaizo'o
> > I didn't say zo mi sumti was wrong. I just said that at the time I didn't
> > feel it was OK. Now I don't know... You think: If lonu klama cu selbri,
> > only then I accept mi sumti. If you must say zo klama selbri, I'd stick
> > with zo mi sumti. Don't know. Maybe not.
>
> pe'i lo nu klama cu sumti gi'enai selbri
>
> co'o mi'e xorxes
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Friday, September 29, 1995 6:25:11 AM UTC+4, jo=
...@phyast.pitt.edu wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Gora=
n:<br>&gt; 2) About dimensions:<br>&gt; Mathematically speaking, there are =
several things that get the name, and sorry<br>&gt; if my terminology sound=
s a bit nonstandard, it's probably because it is:<br>&gt; &nbsp; a) as in "=
dimension of the space V": number of base vectors (dim V)<br>&gt; &nbsp; b)=
 "dimensions of an object": any arbitrary vectors forming a base in<br>&gt;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;which the object can be represented.<br>&gt; So, mu'a,=
 the ball has one dimension-in-sense-a), it is 3.<br>&gt; It has 3 dimensio=
ns-in-sense-b) REGARDED TOGETHER.<br>&gt; It has infinite number of POSSIBL=
E vectors that COULD go in its base.<br>&gt; So, you can't say that there e=
xist exactly three vectors (or properties,<br>&gt; more generally) that are=
 dimensions of lo balci.<p>I agree with that. Now, what does {cimde} mean? =
It obviously is not<br>sense (a), since its x1 is not a number.</p><p>So, i=
s {lo cimde} a vector of a base, or a complete base? I think we<br>can prob=
ably solve it by letting it be one of the vectors, and putting<br>the whole=
 base in x3.</p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Excuse me, how can we expa=
nd cimde3 with something meaningful?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border=
-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><p>So, after all, it _is_ true th=
at exactly three things are dimensions<br>of lo bolci... in a given base. {=
de zo'u ci da cimde lo bolci de}.</p><p>&gt; 3) About sumti and quoting: zo=
'onaizo'o<br>&gt; I didn't say zo mi sumti was wrong. I just said that at t=
he time I didn't<br>&gt; feel it was OK. Now I don't know... You think: If =
lonu klama cu selbri,<br>&gt; only then I accept mi sumti. If you must say =
zo klama selbri, I'd stick<br>&gt; with zo mi sumti. Don't know. Maybe not.=
</p><p>pe'i lo nu klama cu sumti gi'enai selbri</p><p>co'o mi'e xorxes<br><=
/p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p></blockquote></div>

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