Received: from mail-la0-f59.google.com ([209.85.215.59]:43256) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxNt-0005c6-Ni for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:59 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f59.google.com with SMTP id b17sf224995lan.4 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=chGdBanQzLszzb9wWIwUmWVJgA+0Lq3mwFaqoxNMi3k=; b=zDefwpPdi5sldSrfNLcCyskQg1R+FtgQznIpyszQ8VggBlKq4sp3GO0HSos0Jcjoct OFo4ft2hWGbNLoySElzj0uFElJuL/xdc+8HPOQmyid214+8xqx1bGEYv0GvKt7svdVZA yo1usMzAsWl8AZo9oZz4dELe7VV4bA6IEtlUZohiAZGUlnSpdqVJOVK7pVXNHrIXBzEU qiXm1vCeCLMAbSGRK9G/KuEZWcHV+6Yxd2WEqoj6HDhB481z1zRdp2M4HtJMwl33DXre nTeBsjdINjC+QNrqklY4U0VHiH9zdOzoVvAdnPW8xh81ljC9nGIBM0RY/wL+zB0vhzYQ yg5A== X-Received: by 10.152.1.170 with SMTP id 10mr113786lan.2.1411130030279; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.7.197 with SMTP id l5ls269321laa.58.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.151.3 with SMTP id um3mr88529lbb.15.1411130029454; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (mail-la0-x235.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si230504lbd.1.2014.09.19.05.33.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::235; Received: by mail-la0-x235.google.com with SMTP id ge10so2984324lab.26 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.3.35 with SMTP id 3mr6605150laz.5.1411130029360; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1ddd631a-ac27-4558-a57d-f7c4495c3917@googlegroups.com> References: <1ddd631a-ac27-4558-a57d-f7c4495c3917@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:33:49 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Many things, catching up From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0141a01021ca2405036a50d8 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e0141a01021ca2405036a50d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:54 AM, la gleki wrote: > > > On Friday, September 29, 1995 6:25:11 AM UTC+4, jo...@phyast.pitt.edu > wrote: >> >> So, is {lo cimde} a vector of a base, or a complete base? I think we >> can probably solve it by letting it be one of the vectors, and putting >> the whole base in x3. >> > > Excuse me, how can we expand cimde3 with something meaningful? > It seems like cimde3 is another one of those "by standard" place. > 3) About sumti and quoting: zo'onaizo'o >> > I didn't say zo mi sumti was wrong. I just said that at the time I >> didn't >> > feel it was OK. Now I don't know... You think: If lonu klama cu selbri, >> > only then I accept mi sumti. If you must say zo klama selbri, I'd stick >> > with zo mi sumti. Don't know. Maybe not. >> >> pe'i lo nu klama cu sumti gi'enai selbri >> >> co'o mi'e xorxes >> > Maybe I should apologize to my 1995 self for abandoning that fight. "sumti", despite being defined as "argument", has always been used to refer to the expressions that refer to arguments, and not to the arguments themselves. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0141a01021ca2405036a50d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:54 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:

<= br>On Friday, September 29, 1995 6:25:11 AM UTC+4, jo...@phyast.pitt.edu wrote:

So, is {lo cimde} a vector of a base, or a complete base? I thi= nk we
can probably solve it by letting it be one of the vectors, and put= ting
the whole base in x3.


Excuse me= , how can we expand cimde3 with something meaningful?

=C2=A0It seems like cimde3 is another one of those &= quot;by standard" place. =C2=A0

=

> 3) About sumti and quoting: zo= 9;onaizo'o
> I didn't say zo mi sumti was wrong. I just said = that at the time I didn't
> feel it was OK. Now I don't know.= .. You think: If lonu klama cu selbri,
> only then I accept mi sumti.= If you must say zo klama selbri, I'd stick
> with zo mi sumti. D= on't know. Maybe not.

pe'i lo nu klama cu sumti gi'enai s= elbri

co'o mi'e xorxes

Maybe I should apologize to my 1995 self for abandoning that fight. "= ;sumti", despite being defined as "argument", has always bee= n used to refer to the expressions that refer to arguments, and not to the = arguments themselves.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
=C2=A0

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