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[67.233.176.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b61sm2845364yhc.35.2014.09.20.23.38.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Alexander Kozhevnikov To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Question about Lojbanized Name in Unix/Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LN8 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: alexkoz@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexkoz@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexkoz@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Spacenut wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:02:18 PM UTC-4, Alexander Kozhevnikov > wrote: > .a,lekSANdr.koJEVni,kov. > > > My question is, why do you need commas in those places? Commas only > separate vowels that you don't want to run into a dipthong (".ie" versus > ".i,e" for example). To be honest I am a complete lojban newb: my understanding was that commas were in the more general sense separators of syllables, where it was not otherwise apparent/proscribed by the language rules that that is where the syllable boundary was. I do not however know what, if any, syllable boundaries are default/implied for cmevla in the abscence of other indicators of where the syllables end/start, and haven't had the time to look around to find where if anywhere that is specified. I imagine somewhere in the CLL, but it's a big book and I haven't had the time to thoroughly read more than the first couple of chapters. ni'o Many thanks to that other discussion thread for clarifying the difference between cmene and cmevla by the way, I was completely oblivious to it. no'i So I just play it safe and put commas in to make it clear where the syllables start/end. Is any of the aforementioned understanding wrong? ni'o Perhaps the issue is in how I think about language/speech? It seemed to me fairly intuitive that there is a difference between for example "a,lekSANdr" versus "al,ekSANdr". But, thinking about it now, I am hardpressed to think of what the phonetic distinction would be between the two in casual speech. So am I wrong in thinking that it even makes sense to think of the two as in any way different? Thank you and regards, mi'e .a,lekSANdr.koJEVni,kov. P.S. On the subject of my lojbanized name, I am also still hazy on when to or not to put starting/terminating periods and when to precede with a 'la', so my apologies for any omissions or redundancies on that front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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