Received: from mail-yh0-f64.google.com ([209.85.213.64]:56212) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XVmxY-0001Vo-O9 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:14 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f64.google.com with SMTP id z6sf65757yhz.19 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=blkTcpI2AHDb+CNBcRL7Dm4gl/vkY/XNDf6pR2MON68=; b=NS+AoaZWOLw+VG92EjbuWW5Y6RGNK3ZxxdReV2E2hdLLxY+KapNDszlfbBl/mrXxbe +JZXnd6OZ29sN4zgmr7BKpVRC0Uhjzfn/A5u6P9FZwOuAh2dyzcOUdLs7QFiSNOBhmXE ZTzlCfjvxES8a2isn/I1Lh4fhQIGDSMUlYmOXBnFL+XghwCpAEYoqYHt9PTrSGvGLUJc R7lova0alxklbK4i+tJCXDq8VIIbzLBbM/z+9lVPjPYAjdTEFgWE7fgP73xTvq6PUa6h a2tdHknZeMOTJIoqQksiUzNWjc2FfXNxwsJB+tkJwPeBe5WlF5NELX9IV6RFrSeJXAWF ZdgQ== X-Received: by 10.182.75.166 with SMTP id d6mr379obw.13.1411328286183; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.153.202 with SMTP id vi10ls170607obb.66.gmail; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.16.129 with SMTP id g1mr15619980obd.32.1411328285555; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com. [64.12.143.81]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si1455815qcm.2.2014.09.21.12.38.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.81 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.12.143.81; Received: from mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.110]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5B44670035489 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (p549F982B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.159.152.43]) by mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id B8CC838000097 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:38:01 +0200 From: "'Wuzzy' via lojban" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] The important distinction between "cmene" and "cmevla" Message-ID: <20140921213801.20a7eb4b@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1411258581.42034.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <20140920203136.7bb8ab2c@aol.com> <1411258581.42034.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe6e541f291c7310 X-AOL-IP: 84.159.152.43 X-Original-Sender: almikes@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=almikes@aol.com; dkim=pass header.i=@mx.aol.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Original-From: Wuzzy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - > (Should {cmene} perhaps be reserved > for {la. ... .} expressions or would that introduce a new confusion > where people, asked for their names, gave things that astarted with > {la} and ended witha pause? No, that would be most likely be incorrect. The x1 of cmene (also cmevla) *is* the text, it says so clearly in the definition. =E2=80=9Cla uuZIT cu cmene=E2=80=9D means that there is a name /which goes by the name =E2=80=9CuuZIT=E2=80=9D/= . Yes, you say that the name has a name. xD This is almost certainly wrong unless this is what you actually wanted to say. =E2=80=9Czo uuZIT cu cmene=E2=80=9D in turn means that the word =E2=80=9CuuZIT=E2=80=9D is a name. This is corr= ect. It is my name (in Lojban). :-) This is a known pitfall when using the word =E2=80=9Ccmene=E2=80=9D. See al= so: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/White+Knight%27s+Song+Gotcha --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.