Received: from mail-oa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.219.55]:43139) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XW7mM-0006I3-7r for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:52:03 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id eb12sf834162oac.20 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Xk853nDRc74RNzmVFFjang2OIqxqAC+XA6a//pGviys=; b=X2AmtBVRoKyMkO2cw389mXAuo6wM7f8D5HdgKdX9NcXquCTTNXdfhy32n7OFjhm1HB M1u86bUUCp+LH+spMvBrMGYKFegZd1fCMfD54XJqwPtHs5i/LUBg4hp4Q1+K4feK9nHj 4CAM7XoSYVhmo0zlVsjerw6oDcJVpxpSEu/bnv9P46ofS47rIo9jp7ZIyHnYStRNqoWL ucB6cGQfj5RrF/+zru7dXFft4a5kxKejavPmVlRxICTxyxEIHiYeV0IsKjhP1+abpF2P QouNZt11wwMKoXOzGgujSivphr6Y9ooFBwhZD6RdM/VhJN7DZHgG6ms9jEjQGp52A5NE mjvQ== X-Received: by 10.50.49.78 with SMTP id s14mr215887ign.7.1411408316187; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.51.17.44 with SMTP id gb12ls2065477igd.18.gmail; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.216.207 with SMTP id hj15mr14382785icb.27.1411408315847; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jw2si1215285pad.2.2014.09.22.10.51.55 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning lukeabergen@gmail.com does not designate 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XW7mE-0006Hw-K8 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:54 -0700 Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com ([209.85.223.174]:64542) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XW7mD-0006Hh-OO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:54 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id rd18so2519057iec.5 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.66.141 with SMTP id f13mr16032084igt.10.1411408307592; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.12.220 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:51:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Bergen Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:51:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Ease of learning for different native languages To: "lojban-list@lojban.org" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - X-Original-Sender: LukeABergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning lukeabergen@gmail.com does not designate 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0dd2cea98c0503ab1a95 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bdc0dd2cea98c0503ab1a95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Someone asked me on twitter: "When learning a non-ambiguous language like Lojban, do Germans have an easier time than native English speakers?". Not sure I've ever seen this discussed. Do we have any native German (or other languages) speakers present? How easy/hard was learning Lojban for you. Any thoughts or impressions on how non-english languages aid/hinder learning lojban vis-a-vis it's lack of ambiguity? Otherwise, the first thing that jumped out at me was the similarity to German with the lujvo system. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7bdc0dd2cea98c0503ab1a95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone asked me on twitter: "When learning a non-amb= iguous language like Lojban, do Germans have an easier time than native Eng= lish speakers?".

Not sure I've ever seen this d= iscussed. Do we have any native German (or other languages) speakers presen= t? How easy/hard was learning Lojban for you.

Any = thoughts or impressions on how non-english languages aid/hinder learning lo= jban vis-a-vis it's lack of ambiguity?

Otherwi= se, the first thing that jumped out at me was the similarity to German with= the lujvo system.=C2=A0

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