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Subject: Re: [lojban] Ease of learning for different native languages
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It all depends on textbooks. One can explain different features of Lojban
in different order depending on the natlang in question.
E.g. I can see the need in explaining {co'i} earlier for Russian speakers
than for English speakers so that the first ones find more familiar
features sooner.
The same for free word order which in some ways is more limited in English
and thus not that relevant.
May be a few more features but these two are most noticeable.

More distant languages might require reworking the order to a larger degree.

2014-09-22 21:51 GMT+04:00 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>:

> Someone asked me on twitter: "When learning a non-ambiguous language like
> Lojban, do Germans have an easier time than native English speakers?".
>
> Not sure I've ever seen this discussed. Do we have any native German (or
> other languages) speakers present? How easy/hard was learning Lojban for
> you.
>
> Any thoughts or impressions on how non-english languages aid/hinder
> learning lojban vis-a-vis it's lack of ambiguity?
>
> Otherwise, the first thing that jumped out at me was the similarity to
> German with the lujvo system.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It all depends on textbooks. One can explain different fea=
tures of Lojban in different order depending on the natlang in question.<di=
v>E.g. I can see the need in explaining {co&#39;i} earlier for Russian spea=
kers than for English speakers so that the first ones find more familiar fe=
atures sooner.</div><div>The same for free word order which in some ways is=
 more limited in English and thus not that relevant.</div><div>May be a few=
 more features but these two are most noticeable.</div><div><br></div><div>=
More distant languages might require reworking the order to a larger degree=
.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014=
-09-22 21:51 GMT+04:00 Luke Bergen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
lukeabergen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lukeabergen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Someone asked me on =
twitter: &quot;When learning a non-ambiguous language like Lojban, do Germa=
ns have an easier time than native English speakers?&quot;.<div><br></div><=
div>Not sure I&#39;ve ever seen this discussed. Do we have any native Germa=
n (or other languages) speakers present? How easy/hard was learning Lojban =
for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Any thoughts or impressions on how non-en=
glish languages aid/hinder learning lojban vis-a-vis it&#39;s lack of ambig=
uity?</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise, the first thing that jumped out a=
t me was the similarity to German with the lujvo system.=C2=A0</div></div><=
span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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