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Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: Lojban Process
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2014-09-23 7:26 GMT+04:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>:

> Ok, it seems from the recent Logos discussion that at least some of the
> newer lojban-followers/learners are confused on a basic point. Lojbab it's
> not holding up the process of lojban "development" because of his personal
> desire for control, power, or to satisfy his personal desires. Years ago we
> (I was an active member of LLG at the time) decided TOGETHER that the
> language needed to be documented as it was before we opened it up to
> further change through either legislated or organic change. There were, and
> are concrete and week thought out reasons for this which Lojbab has tried
> to explain repeatedly. He is doing this explaining and actively posing for
> this decision to be followed as himself AND as the LLG President from then
> and again now. Doing so is part of his responsibilities in that role. I've,
> and I'm sure others as well, sat back and followed the posts on this and
> related topics because he was doing this. Now, obviously, I feel the need
> to step in. I do not like seeing
> someone who has put in so much time and effort over so very many years
> into the development of, dissemination of information about, and the
> management of the organization behind Lojban being treated as a petty
> tyrant.
>

His position is pretty clear to me. May be some of readers of this mailing
list dont or dont want to understand them. If so they are free to join
other projects.


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te">2014-09-23 7:26 GMT+04:00 Karen Stein <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:comcaresvcs@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">comcaresvcs@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ok, it seems from the recent L=
ogos discussion that at least some of the newer lojban-followers/learners a=
re confused on a basic point. Lojbab it&#39;s not holding up the process of=
 lojban &quot;development&quot; because of his personal desire for control,=
 power, or to satisfy his personal desires. Years ago we (I was an active m=
ember of LLG at the time) decided TOGETHER that the language needed to be d=
ocumented as it was before we opened it up to further change through either=
 legislated or organic change. There were, and are concrete and week though=
t out reasons for this which Lojbab has tried to explain repeatedly. He is =
doing this explaining and actively posing for this decision to be followed =
as himself AND as the LLG President from then and again now. Doing so is pa=
rt of his responsibilities in that role. I&#39;ve, and I&#39;m sure others =
as well, sat back and followed the posts on this and related topics because=
 he was doing this. Now, obviously, I feel the need to step in. I do not li=
ke seeing<br>
someone who has put in so much time and effort over so very many years into=
 the development of, dissemination of information about, and the management=
 of the organization behind Lojban being treated as a petty tyrant.<br></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>His position is pretty clear to me. May be som=
e of readers of this mailing list dont or dont want to understand them. If =
so they are free to join other projects.</div><div><br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><br>
.karis<br>
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