Received: from mail-ee0-f64.google.com ([74.125.83.64]:61568) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWTAK-0005Mm-UW for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:15 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f64.google.com with SMTP id e53sf429701eek.19 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0kHU1jBff2k92z3ywOYt2FRizteRjv9LabDLBXHBwwA=; b=r5tbaikp7aUZi4ZLRUD2Eu3glbnxa/HwqGvT59tbe37CpUYrnd5slBS5evFxVg+YNF EWtt+U3xY1ZL1vmUd7YOMud9TdiXwb5p1Tp64RJZQRFVWf3r23uA/1kvWoYISjz7g+5z CsfrwCHxFN2IY3HhgSNW59OEMyy2PqrJd6Qhp2+8/k3Cjwp0fItPPLZAx1JnVkRtop8F ncD1jtmUAiB25975x99MycBYUywXmA09NM1GSiwcQLRi2E6HThRoqOvLwPoB/BHH7L7n Bo1FqaaoNw5c9FQTjkJMQqa/nDV4B9+bcmRJHJpXp3G9yxaA351bNGHbkgBVWQloSLeH GQtg== X-Received: by 10.152.6.228 with SMTP id e4mr11732laa.33.1411490526131; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.44.229 with SMTP id h5ls75301lam.4.gmail; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.52.165 with SMTP id u5mr135917lbo.12.1411490525393; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa3si2008243lbc.0.2014.09.23.09.42.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::229; Received: by mail-la0-x229.google.com with SMTP id s18so9130007lam.28 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.118.227 with SMTP id kp3mr596591lbb.75.1411490525266; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <54186B05.1000802@lojban.org> <54216771.9060804@gmail.com> <1411477094.38293.YahooMailNeo@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:42:05 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Logos Initiative From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd921b45cc90a0503be3fb8 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bd921b45cc90a0503be3fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2014-09-23 16:58 GMT+04:00 'John E Clifford' via lojban < > lojban@googlegroups.com>: > >> Losing the thread here. But >> English is a tonal language? >> > > yes, say aloud this last phrase and hear the tone. > "Tone is the use of pitch in language to distinguish lexical or grammatical meaning =E2=80=93 that is, to distinguish or to inflect words.[1] All verba= l languages use pitch to express emotional and other paralinguistic information and to convey emphasis, contrast, and other such features in what is called intonation, but not all languages use tones to distinguish words or their inflections, analogously to consonants and vowels. Languages that do have this feature are called tonal languages;" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_(linguistics) mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7bd921b45cc90a0503be3fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <<= a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:

2014-= 09-23 16:58 GMT+04:00 'John E Clifford' via lojban <lojban@g= ooglegroups.com>:
Losing the thread here.=C2=A0 But=C2=A0
English is a tonal = language?

y= es, say aloud this last phrase and hear the tone.

"Tone is the use of pitch in language to dis= tinguish lexical or grammatical meaning =E2=80=93 that is, to distinguish o= r to inflect words.[1] All verbal languages use pitch to express emotional = and other paralinguistic information and to convey emphasis, contrast, and = other such features in what is called intonation, but not all languages use= tones to distinguish words or their inflections, analogously to consonants= and vowels.=C2=A0Languages that do ha= ve this feature are called tonal languages;" =C2=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_= (linguistics)

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