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Sounds to me like you are a Lojbanologist rather than a Lojbbanist.  Barrin=
g someone actually writing a good text book (on the record, a low probabili=
ty event) learning Lojban has always been a massive memory project with lot=
s of writing, making mistakes, arguing about corrections and then going bac=
k at it again.  Learning *about* Lojban, however, is pretty straightforward=
 and can be done quite a bit by reading CLL and various bits from these lis=
ts. Have at it!
As for your own conlangs, I would take them to the Conlangers group on Face=
book, which is friendly and helpful.


On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:01 PM, "nxt101@gmail.com" <nxt101@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
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Hello, I believe here is a good place to get help on this matter.

As the title states, I have a brain that is very good at math, computer sci=
ence, and the like.

However!
I've tried learning a foreign language twice now, and Esperanto twice too.
I've got problems with memorization, as well as other disabilities affectin=
g language processing.
(also, horrible spelling)

I've constructed a conlang, and I am in the process of constructing another=
, both with decisively non-English grammar structures.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now, with that personal details out of the way, The thing which I ask is be=
llow.

What is the best way to learn Lojban from a math/logic perspective? Is ther=
e any references that I should have on hand?

Thanks in advance,

Romaji ####
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt"><div><span>Sounds to me like you are a Lojbanologist rather t=
han a Lojbbanist. &nbsp;Barring someone actually writing a good text book (=
on the record, a low probability event) learning Lojban has always been a m=
assive memory project with lots of writing, making mistakes, arguing about =
corrections and then going back at it again. &nbsp;Learning *about* Lojban,=
 however, is pretty straightforward and can be done quite a bit by reading =
CLL and various bits from these lists. Have at it!</span></div><div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helv=
etica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: nor=
mal; background-color: transparent;"><span>As for your own conlangs, I woul=
d take them to the Conlangers group on Facebook, which is friendly and
 helpful.</span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: He=
lveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica =
Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Tuesday, September 23, =
2014 5:01 PM, "nxt101@gmail.com" &lt;nxt101@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br> </font=
> </div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv7359058588"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello, I believe here is a good place to get help on this=
 matter.<div><br></div><div>As the title states, I have a brain that is ver=
y good at math, computer science, and the like.</div><div><br></div><div><b=
>However!</b></div><div>I've tried learning a foreign language twice now, a=
nd Esperanto twice too.</div><div>I've got problems with memorization, as w=
ell as other
 disabilities affecting language processing.</div><div>(also, horrible spel=
ling)</div><div><br></div><div>I've constructed a conlang, and I am in the =
process of constructing another, both with decisively non-English grammar s=
tructures.</div><div>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div><div><br></div><div>N=
ow, with that personal details out of the way, The thing which I ask is bel=
low.</div><div><br></div><div>What is the best way to learn Lojban from a m=
ath/logic perspective? Is there any references that I should have on hand?<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>Romaji=
 ####</div></div>


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