Received: from mail-pd0-f185.google.com ([209.85.192.185]:42796) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWa2w-0003YH-1r for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:03:07 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f185.google.com with SMTP id y13sf1018995pdi.12 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f6i+Ow+f+pF6UVoG7+Q+nwGyKAd3yjBYzZS+rWROCqk=; b=DsQcKHWEzFWxQlyogBuyvAtC9S278k5zhMDclZyVV2IlbTcCkKXTKadNyzGmgSJix3 pgmvbG2s91FdzUd2kQvIIrkJoy64avmTDg7MN2cenKNbyV8VVYuGaVGhgA3pgjTuWH2w qY5YX2eliXrqEX8ii9NYik/2Dk6ta2OdTi7QTVMj/QiHCZiVAOJmdINEL5wuegTdJOsK cULDQtu9nM/HknNTas0mYK9CGw0AlQuPqTpjbPZ2sI3qBmmVlvuDV0leEjSH/LeUNCeT cHQfDWN4/bimYOcOHlJ15O7IHf/gG61mDrrFhWWAu+u5R3Oq+Ryfr9SmxgGKBUOaaztV 2J5g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f6i+Ow+f+pF6UVoG7+Q+nwGyKAd3yjBYzZS+rWROCqk=; b=BkJ7qPWnRx40jLTF+eC2aTnyW3MJeEfU1hPq27Y8lfd17hhOrcT3Qzyr7OWAal2uK4 LLW7z0s4NJPufrwmoP68oZtdQ4iLDLtHQ1suJjRNcqtLjtqMvSSRs9+mpRnjnHjAwK6u SyML2DkB43yZ9fYcQiGzJxO5ls2+9ZVt02bfhDEyaUBiEvaVWy54MaI7ZOKCp4ls5Fd9 Ml83xAyXqfxq0sEQl7f33VUUQyn5mMiqwfTKU2l27utXz5nBD6kcOywp+MuAzIki/0er RV9GmhIIjx1/6VqPug+DRoDL8gGYPQDNhIwkeGSMrDjsugMybFX3votELmQSHXOsvHBl Qb1w== X-Received: by 10.140.30.36 with SMTP id c33mr25523qgc.2.1411516975726; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.47.87 with SMTP id l81ls269334qga.51.gmail; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.21.51 with SMTP id 48mr552qgk.12.1411516975326; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Romaji #### To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: kali9putra@yahoo.com Message-Id: <1465cea2-41be-48ac-8f02-934d4a4b904b@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1411515475.42591.YahooMailNeo@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5f6a7dec-3c5d-477d-bd73-5bd69726b713@googlegroups.com> <1411515475.42591.YahooMailNeo@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Mathy person interested in concept, unsure where to begin. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: nxt101@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7041_523883234.1411516974661" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_7041_523883234.1411516974661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I was looking for a kind of "quick reference" guide to get me started on Lojiban, with stuff like a list of key words and suff/pre fixes, and basic grammar rules, preferably in a logic based environment. So, basically, I'd be writing the textbook? On your second point, I don't use FB. On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:37:57 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote: > > Sounds to me like you are a Lojbanologist rather than a Lojbbanist. > Barring someone actually writing a good text book (on the record, a low > probability event) learning Lojban has always been a massive memory project > with lots of writing, making mistakes, arguing about corrections and then > going back at it again. Learning *about* Lojban, however, is pretty > straightforward and can be done quite a bit by reading CLL and various bits > from these lists. Have at it! > As for your own conlangs, I would take them to the Conlangers group on > Facebook, which is friendly and helpful. > > > On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:01 PM, "nxt...@gmail.com " > > wrote: > > > Hello, I believe here is a good place to get help on this matter. > > As the title states, I have a brain that is very good at math, computer > science, and the like. > > *However!* > I've tried learning a foreign language twice now, and Esperanto twice too. > I've got problems with memorization, as well as other disabilities > affecting language processing. > (also, horrible spelling) > > I've constructed a conlang, and I am in the process of constructing > another, both with decisively non-English grammar structures. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Now, with that personal details out of the way, The thing which I ask is > bellow. > > What is the best way to learn Lojban from a math/logic perspective? Is > there any references that I should have on hand? > > Thanks in advance, > > Romaji #### > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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I was looking for a kind of "quick reference" guide to get= me started on Lojiban, with stuff like a list of key words and suff/pre fi= xes, and basic grammar rules, preferably in a logic based environment.
= So, basically, I'd be writing the textbook?

On you= r second point, I don't use FB.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:37:= 57 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote:
Sounds to me like you are a Lojbanologist rather than a Lojbbanist= .  Barring someone actually writing a good text book (on the record, a= low probability event) learning Lojban has always been a massive memory pr= oject with lots of writing, making mistakes, arguing about corrections and = then going back at it again.  Learning *about* Lojban, however, is pre= tty straightforward and can be done quite a bit by reading CLL and various = bits from these lists. Have at it!
On Tuesday, Septem= ber 23, 2014 5:01 PM, "nxt...@gmail.co= m" <nxt...@gmail.com> w= rote:


Hello, I beli= eve here is a good place to get help on this matter.

As = the title states, I have a brain that is very good at math, computer scienc= e, and the like.

However!
I've tr= ied learning a foreign language twice now, and Esperanto twice too.
I've got problems with memorization, as well as other disabilities affecting language processing.
(also, horrible spel= ling)

I've constructed a conlang, and I am in the = process of constructing another, both with decisively non-English grammar s= tructures.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<= br>
Now, with that personal details out of the way, The thing whi= ch I ask is bellow.

What is the best way to learn = Lojban from a math/logic perspective? Is there any references that I should= have on hand?

Thanks in advance,

Romaji ####
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