Received: from mail-qc0-f188.google.com ([209.85.216.188]:59009) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWb36-0003pl-Na for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:21 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f188.google.com with SMTP id i8sf74549qcq.15 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kUjX2q8kGpEmtkC3M8WWi2KR2UyxNej8HmJXF58Z+Ok=; b=qdyYAsLgcvYmcN1JFEya+/6EH/eg0wbLNKmeBVLlwzouIWc3QaUaci6wtclu51wbkY Up/RfrM/navpGldTVTm2vu48uHCLdeMz9aC9Ywtg8hc00otz4io+gIwifam/YkpETJnZ mWT1UW+IdNDwMitsKieTkwNoKtInv3OBvEU44V065cp1V4+ANtsWnu+RbltMAlh/10yT K62QxaxroBHFsrFkmaN0PiPHpRrRVvbDJmlRtWwkCGH2nefn91JMaTURyQpQE9M47w2h x7OTzIZiQGpWF0ps0NBWzeYzUKX3eAzvz0XYVTtQ2YmwRbG3A9ouV8b+3yqs17XwwUln ZuCA== X-Received: by 10.140.36.234 with SMTP id p97mr1041qgp.14.1411520830200; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.47.87 with SMTP id l81ls277704qga.51.gmail; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.28.68 with SMTP id l4mr3023543qac.2.1411520829742; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.225]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ss9si1815229pab.1.2014.09.23.18.07.09 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.225; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:46504] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B5/2C-15139-D3912245; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:07:09 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20621A14 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Logos Initiative Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:07:03 -0400 Message-ID: <2001156.I81ItpP8Hx@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-34-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <5BBBFC8F-0363-4B88-A736-8AD0A9B5CB22@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 23:42:19 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Then a wrong term has been used for Toaq Dzu since tones there an in guaspi > represent syntactic roles and dont create new words just like in English > interrogative intonation ti'e doesnt produce new words. Toaq uses tone to distinguish predicates from arguments. Some natlangs use tone to mark verb tense. This is still tone. English uses intonation to mark a clause as a question; it doesn't mark a single word. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.