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From: "Romaji ####" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nxt101@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nxt101@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nxt101@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a90aea653f00503cfa37c X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b3a90aea653f00503cfa37c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Never? Interesting. I'll attempt to remedy that problem. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2014-09-24 4:17 GMT+04:00 Romaji #### : > >> Uh... >> I've just started. >> I'm not willing to pay anything yet. >> What about some online, community stuff? >> Or is that all going to not be what I want? >> Does anyone else here think they even unambiguously know what I want? >> > > CLL (the reference grammar) is free. > all the links are here http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Learning/en > Secondary links (unsorted) > http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Learning_materials._Secondary_links > (which has some charts of lojban grammar) > However, I doubt Lojban has ever been described from a logician's > mathematician's viewpoint no matter how strange it might seem to you. > > >> >> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:14:09 PM UTC-4, TR NS wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, Romaji #### wrote: >>>> >>>> I was looking for a kind of "quick reference" guide to get me started >>>> on Lojiban, with stuff like a list of key words and suff/pre fixes, and >>>> basic grammar rules, preferably in a logic based environment. >>>> So, basically, I'd be writing the textbook? >>>> >>>> >>> You can just read it: http://www.amazon.com/ >>> Complete-Lojban-Language-John-Cowan/dp/0966028309 >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/f9L_hAbBcwc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Never?
Interesting.
I'll attempt to reme= dy that problem.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki= .is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2014-09-24 4:17 GMT+04:00 Romaji #### <nxt101@gmail= .com>:
Uh...
I'v= e just started.
I'm not willing to pay anything yet.
What about some online, community stuff?
Or is that all going t= o not be what I want?
Does anyone else here think they even unamb= iguously know what I want?

CLL (the reference grammar) is free.
all the links are here http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=3DLearning/en=C2=A0
(which has some charts of lojban grammar)
However, I doubt Lojba= n has ever been described from a logician's mathematician's viewpoi= nt no matter how strange it might seem to you.



On Tuesda= y, September 23, 2014 8:14:09 PM UTC-4, TR NS wrote:


On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:02:54 PM UTC-4, Romaji = #### wrote:
I was looking for a kind of &q= uot;quick reference" guide to get me started on Lojiban, with stuff li= ke a list of key words and suff/pre fixes, and basic grammar rules, prefera= bly in a logic based environment.
So, basically, I'd be writing the= textbook?


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