Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: mukti <shunpiker@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL: Non-coding help: check us against LS's requirements.
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>
> I prefer cloth bound without dust jacket, for the simple reason that=20
> we don't have the resources to do a really pretty full color cover=20
> and it's not that sort of book anyway, but what do other people=20
> think?=20
>

If clothbound isn't prohibtively expensive (and it wouldn't make the book=
=20
so), it would also be my preference, without a dust jacket. I would opt for=
=20
the grey cloth, with the idea of reserving blue for the forthcoming=20
major-numbered version.

Aren't there like a *million* more requirements, though, like font=20
> embedding and so on?=20
>

Fonts are embedded as subsets.

The images, as gleki noted in the Art thread=20
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/0uyrERTkXsg/rdwNXT6A9eUJ>, are low=
=20
resolution web images: 72 dpi, where 600 dpi is recommended for black and=
=20
white images. When re-sourcing these images, it might be best to select an=
=20
image format that supports black and white: As GIFs, these are RGB images,=
=20
which the guide says will be converted to grayscale, but why not head off=
=20
any potential problem with that?

Regarding the glyph warnings:
=20
=EC=9E=90=EB=AA=A8 turns up in Example 4.51: The literal characters are inc=
luded in the XML.
=EC=9E=90 (U+C790 <http://codepoints.net/U+C790>)
=EB=AA=A8 (U+BAA8 <http://codepoints.net/U+BAA8>)
Font support for JA=20
<http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/c790/fontsupport.htm> and MO=
=20
<http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/baa8/fontsupport.htm> is=20
limited. Maybe better to embed them as an image? Or rewrite the example to=
=20
use better supported characters?

=E2=84=B5 is in Example 18.17, as an HTML entity: &#x2135;
=E2=84=B5 (U+2135 <http://codepoints.net/U+2135>)
It seems to be supported in DejaVu Sans=20
<http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2135/fontsupport.htm>,=20
although not in DejaVu Serif. Perhaps the entity could be wrapped in a span=
=20
that would style it as sans?

mi'e la mukti mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margi=
n-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I prefer clot=
h bound without dust jacket, for the simple reason that
<br>we don't have the resources to do a really pretty full color cover
<br>and it's not that sort of book anyway, but what do other people
<br>think?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If clothbound isn't prohibtively expen=
sive (and it wouldn't make the book so), it would also be my preference, wi=
thout a dust jacket. I would opt for the grey cloth, with the idea of reser=
ving blue for the forthcoming major-numbered version.</div><div><br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bord=
er-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Aren't there like a *million* m=
ore requirements, though, like font
<br>embedding and so on?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fonts are embedded as subsets.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>The images, as <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/msg=
/lojban/0uyrERTkXsg/rdwNXT6A9eUJ">gleki noted in the Art thread</a>, are lo=
w resolution web images: 72 dpi, where 600 dpi is recommended for black and=
 white images. When re-sourcing these images, it might be best to select an=
 image format that supports black and white: As GIFs, these are RGB images,=
 which the guide says will be converted to grayscale, but why not head off =
any potential problem with that?</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the gly=
ph warnings:</div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><div>=EC=9E=90=EB=AA=A8 turns up in =
Example 4.51: The literal characters are included in the XML.</div><div>=EC=
=9E=90 (<a href=3D"http://codepoints.net/U+C790">U+C790</a>)</div><div>=EB=
=AA=A8 (<a href=3D"http://codepoints.net/U+BAA8">U+BAA8</a>)<br></div><div>=
Font support for <a href=3D"http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/c7=
90/fontsupport.htm">JA</a>&nbsp;and <a href=3D"http://www.fileformat.info/i=
nfo/unicode/char/baa8/fontsupport.htm">MO</a>&nbsp;is limited. Maybe better=
 to embed them as an image? Or rewrite the example to use better supported =
characters?<br></div><div><br></div><div>=E2=84=B5 is in Example 18.17, as =
an HTML entity: &amp;#x2135;</div><div>=E2=84=B5 (<a href=3D"http://codepoi=
nts.net/U+2135">U+2135</a>)<br></div><div>It seems to be <a href=3D"http://=
www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2135/fontsupport.htm">supported in De=
jaVu Sans</a>, although not in DejaVu Serif. Perhaps the entity could be wr=
apped in a span that would style it as sans?</div><div><br></div><div>mi'e =
la mukti mu'o</div></div>

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