Received: from mail-wg0-f63.google.com ([74.125.82.63]:55919) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWoHS-0002OF-Tu for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:15:09 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f63.google.com with SMTP id n12sf410388wgh.18 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1EjmM53SyroIHbYpuzZ8BRz6qgMwf8brXHqLV3kbWs0=; b=Yk7HUa7zl1Drr8lEBGhaY9Y/e+aKBcRaq5JB0OHbHVcK7ucwkgUEQ/TQ9nHfEwaskH ax3l+ewMPSY78qHaxMVx1YGGZooOV4Rd3bC27yGvkpSOzPBWtFK4pGgwt8mKD1XPWJkb 8w+4viKufyE4d+h48VjMB642CrYbKDSZRSyL/l+ETOTO6hIFHVK71Oek98vghLrQOeQM z8+SpaAQk0onoY2zzr57OY5kWUmlzDIkfNY2WDRGKMlOlqrLRXN4c1TCV3xxjbaikaB5 8UqUhoJ/KLTMcA7eZ32uhhyLLrgG3Wlo5pO1ACL4elPdA349pulaeIGrYUgqB3kbj28/ wsIQ== X-Received: by 10.180.14.101 with SMTP id o5mr76291wic.2.1411571692042; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.103.8 with SMTP id fs8ls798059wib.48.canary; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.205.34 with SMTP id ld2mr423856wjc.5.1411571691640; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id us10si600274lbc.1.2014.09.24.08.14.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::231; Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id pn19so10898745lab.36 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.129.228 with SMTP id nz4mr6781804lbb.9.1411571691523; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1411570426.39518.YahooMailNeo@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5f6a7dec-3c5d-477d-bd73-5bd69726b713@googlegroups.com> <1411515475.42591.YahooMailNeo@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1465cea2-41be-48ac-8f02-934d4a4b904b@googlegroups.com> <88e103a9-04e1-4739-97c2-f37fa457e4a8@googlegroups.com> <90cb23e1-0ed7-4b3c-9626-c31c4c8a8076@googlegroups.com> <1411567412.85594.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1411570426.39518.YahooMailNeo@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:14:51 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Mathy person interested in concept, unsure where to begin. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a83ae3f94df0503d125db X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b3a83ae3f94df0503d125db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:53 AM, 'John E Clifford' via lojban < lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote: > If Lojban really does contain non-logical elements (I'm not sure what > that means, but ...) > I was thinking of attitudinals, for example. Or vocatives. Since the formula to language move is just (theoretically) standard > linguistics, it ought to be relatively easy and then the trip back be > pretty straightforward (by forcing if nothing else). > Yes, all of that is pretty easy. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b3a83ae3f94df0503d125db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:53 AM, 'John E Clifford' via lojban = <lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:
=C2=A0If Lojban really does contain non-logical el= ements (I'm not sure what that means, but ...)

I was thinking of attitudinals, for examp= le. Or vocatives.
=C2=A0

=C2=A0Since the formula to language move is just (the= oretically) standard linguistics, it ought to be relatively easy and then t= he trip back be pretty straightforward (by forcing if nothing else). =C2=A0=

Yes, all of that = is pretty easy.=C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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