Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Romaji #### <nxt101@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Beginner help, with also, How to reference product names
 that have no official Lojiban translation?
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Thank you.
one question, what does sepi'o mean or do in a bridi? 

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Romaji #### <nxt...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hello again.
>> I'd post this on the original thread I started with, but that kinda got 
>> derailed.
>> I've read some of the guide who's link was posted in the other thread, 
>> and I decided to try it out, creating this example sentence:
>>
>>> ko pilno la skipe. tavla .i 
>>>
>>
> You can't have two selbri at the same level in a bridi, what you have is 
> ungrammatical (it breaks at tavla). Also, {.i} /begins/ a statement, it 
> doesn't end it, so you only need it if there's going to be another 
> statement after that one.
>  
>
>>  Or, as I hope it translates to, "[I command you to] use Skype [to] talk" 
>> or, in more fluid English "You need to use Skype to talk."
>>
>
> "You! use the-thing-named "skipe" <PARSE ERROR!>"
>  
>
>> I have 2 questions here
>>
>>    1. Is "la skipe" the proper way to refer to Skype (the 
>>    service/program) in lojiban?
>>
>> No. {skipe} is an undefined gismu (pronounced SKEE-peh). You want to use 
> a cmevla, so {la.skaip.}, or possibly a fu'ivla, such as {skaipe}.
>  
>
>>
>>    1. How would you add the clause "to me" at the end of 
>>    the senescence in Lojiban?
>>
>> Fill the x2 place of tavla.
>
> I'd go with {ko tavla mi sepi'o la.skaip.}: "You! talk to-me using-Skype."
>  
>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Romaji ####
>>
>
>
> -- 
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>  

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you.<div>one question, what does&nbsp;sepi'o mean or=
 do in a bridi?&nbsp;<br><br>On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:06:01 PM UT=
C-4, aionys wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;marg=
in-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:49 P=
M, Romaji #### <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_bla=
nk" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"0u_bWYGHkC8J" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'java=
script:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">n=
xt...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Hello again.<div>I'd post this on the original thread I start=
ed with, but that kinda got derailed.</div><div>I've read some of the guide=
 who's link was posted in the other thread, and I decided to try it out, cr=
eating this example sentence:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(20=
4,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face=3D"courier =
new, monospace">ko pilno la skipe. tavla .i</font>&nbsp;<br></blockquote></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You can't have two selbri at the same =
level in a bridi, what you have is ungrammatical (it breaks at tavla). Also=
, {.i} /begins/ a statement, it doesn't end it, so you only need it if ther=
e's going to be another statement after that one.<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockqu=
ote><div>&nbsp;Or, as I hope it translates to, "[I command you to] use Skyp=
e [to] talk" or, in more fluid English "You need to use Skype to talk."</di=
v></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>"You! use the-thing-named "skipe" =
&lt;PARSE ERROR!&gt;"<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have 2 questions here</div><div><ol><li><span s=
tyle=3D"line-height:normal">Is "la skipe" the proper way to&nbsp;refer&nbsp=
;to Skype (the service/program) in lojiban?</span></li></ol></div></div></b=
lockquote><div>No. {skipe} is an undefined gismu (pronounced SKEE-peh). You=
 want to use a cmevla, so {la.skaip.}, or possibly a fu'ivla, such as {skai=
pe}.<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><ol><li><span style=3D"line-height:normal">How would you add the c=
lause "to me" at the end of the&nbsp;senescence&nbsp;in Lojiban?</span></li=
></ol></div></div></blockquote><div>Fill the x2 place of tavla.<br><br></di=
v><div>I'd go with {ko tavla mi sepi'o la.skaip.}: "You! talk to-me using-S=
kype."<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>Romaji ####<br clear=
=3D"all"></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br>mu'o mi'e .aionys.<b=
r><br>.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o<=
br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
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