Received: from mail-pa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.220.64]:59352) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWu4K-0000p2-6M for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:53 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id kx10sf1349615pab.9 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7t0lUse/9IiUTDXsa4g3auVS1UZiiWI892KjmDgXPNo=; b=C+MO/T74oU+PoYI9UHDQ0UMxR6kTUlW9eXGt25JEAEX2ybCWEUINIwfPxCyksN7YuF smwQnygDK6O0hIBTpvTdC336uJcelHxwXm2Hv2R6JAIrA3upWtj08qxd1zA1Z3pLUcva 7ulyi9D/GizReeY7xO3QimYwbDq1rm7h4dk2Qr7gowB52g6alpqVZwRUdLL45a/u8ZFD X4v/ULtwYK21zAXwbGCjyQsKaTmqSINSV/Z56J/PxKbmiF67ix8BBCKO/oz2611B4k/T qzslIFdH/UURaL56giCkaX2QXc/IKOviIMGlvjkW6alYFkgAK1yWJ5acXaOOHA5TtiVx M/Pw== X-Received: by 10.50.114.170 with SMTP id jh10mr532086igb.6.1411593941739; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.138.199 with SMTP id qs7ls3484176igb.14.canary; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.141.165 with SMTP id rp5mr7113311pab.47.1411593941403; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22c.google.com (mail-qg0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si132948qcd.0.2014.09.24.14.25.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c; Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f51so6830424qge.31 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.112.10 with SMTP id u10mr3680641qap.104.1411593941256; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.30.132 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <66f51bb7-ace9-46b2-ba4d-47f9b35acd08@googlegroups.com> References: <7db9c9ea-0392-4148-a437-6d3332dc1b8e@googlegroups.com> <66f51bb7-ace9-46b2-ba4d-47f9b35acd08@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:25:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Beginner help, with also, How to reference product names that have no official Lojiban translation? From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2d1006f95f00503d653fc X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c2d1006f95f00503d653fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thank you. > one question, what does sepi'o mean or do in a bridi? > {se pi'o} is two words. Just {pi'o} is a tag which inserts the x1 place of {pilno} into a bridi. With {se} in front, you get a tag which inserts the x2 place. We can be more precise by actually using {pilno} as our main selbri and filling all three of its places: .i ko pilno la .skaip. lo nu do tavla Or we can be less precise by making a tanru: .i ko pilno be la .skaip. [be'o] tavla mi'e la latro'a mu'o (This means "my name is {latro'a}, my message is complete, you may respond.") -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c2d1006f95f00503d653fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you.one question, what does=C2=A0sepi'o mean or do in a bridi?=C2=A0
{se pi'o} is two words. Just {pi'o} is a= tag which inserts the x1 place of {pilno} into a bridi. With {se} in front, you get a tag which inse= rts the x2 place. We can be more precise by actually using {pilno} as our m= ain selbri and filling all three of its places:

.i ko pilno la .skaip. lo nu do tavla

Or we can be less precise by making a tanru:

=
.i ko pilno be la .skaip. [be'o] tavla
mi'e la latro'a mu'o (This m= eans "my name is {latro'a}, my message is complete, you may respon= d.")

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