Received: from mail-qc0-f186.google.com ([209.85.216.186]:52056) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWveE-00020d-1I for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:07:03 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f186.google.com with SMTP id x3sf213988qcv.23 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yh61EnIzA7mGPB+GIA7a0Cyk0vu5bZyIuD4gMTkK7cM=; b=Caeg6EpEja8gCfjbwGuxxgpSjAtSZufMuQ+QisMrlvgmQGlgAesADc4yUtXsLoGg/3 DJ8chIGSvMSfl8jtPkMB9kGxy7LP/ZavT+Wb7ftOM4ut2VvJT8ArxXAqokfP5+Tn59sr oK14aTqdVqZQHAG2Jbh8z+JF3qFupf6xBvxZHnkwY7YsffSoTm4b7LZdvzza4WoQz2so OnWyYw0OpTTvooDeILWrxbg/RAEz5hD4HYFfkatPDQJN7DfEBVATZO8bc6n1fwn1aGNh jNxYbhaaLdHNfg1GBxw+emZ3odGaQedzia4uqnXqOvuZx9Ed1VjHWwHsLMj9x2sF4f4g ZQTg== X-Received: by 10.50.73.165 with SMTP id m5mr282749igv.14.1411600011476; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.73.200 with SMTP id n8ls1228080igv.14.gmail; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.66.237 with SMTP id i13mr7888946pat.16.1411600010288; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i3si166779qcm.3.2014.09.24.16.06.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f; Received: by mail-qg0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id z107so6536026qgd.20 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.38.81 with SMTP id s75mr15002542qgs.4.1411600010180; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.30.132 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <788aa170-a48b-498f-bdb7-b7987ffabf18@googlegroups.com> References: <7db9c9ea-0392-4148-a437-6d3332dc1b8e@googlegroups.com> <66f51bb7-ace9-46b2-ba4d-47f9b35acd08@googlegroups.com> <3545684b-1984-4a09-83bb-5e3e5a8ce6a6@googlegroups.com> <788aa170-a48b-498f-bdb7-b7987ffabf18@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Beginner help, with also, How to reference product names that have no official Lojiban translation? From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1276c2c06c30503d7bd48 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c1276c2c06c30503d7bd48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Romaji #### wrote: > Thank you. > (P.S. Would the equivalent of your sig be "me'i la romaji mu'o", or is > there some Illegal combination of letters there?) > It'd be {mi'e}, but there's a technical problem with {romaji} as a name. For morphology reasons with which you needn't be concerned yet, {romaji} is actually {ro ma ji}, three cmavo. So it can't be a valid name. The standard fix is to stick an arbitrary consonant onto the end. This makes a cmevla (the same word class as {.skaip.}), which can only serve as names. The most common choice is {s}, which would make your sig {mi'e la .romajis. mu'o}. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c1276c2c06c30503d7bd48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Romaji #### <nxt101@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Thank you.=
(P.S. Would the equivalent of your sig be "me'i la romaji mu&= #39;o", or is there some Illegal combination of letters there?)
It'd be {mi'e}, but there's a techni= cal problem with {romaji} as a name. For morphology reasons with which you = needn't be concerned yet, {romaji} is actually {ro ma ji}, three cmavo.= So it can't be a valid name.

The standard fix is to stick an a= rbitrary consonant onto the end. This makes a cmevla (the same word class a= s {.skaip.}), which can only serve as names. The most common choice is {s},= which would make your sig {mi'e la .romajis. mu'o}.

mi'= e la latro'a mu'o

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