Received: from mail-ie0-f192.google.com ([209.85.223.192]:59378) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XWvqr-0002DA-0c for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:20:06 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f192.google.com with SMTP id tp5sf1200319ieb.19 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:19:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rooGxAA9/UDjOF8WJG++tiFbEthqiMQpkDHa/Nl3GOQ=; b=QPHA2OL32KUZyACTKmVHBNm7T/3zwiXehTzrM56to3PSYHM+D0/rdIQ3I4MlUwX0Yd nRoIXDvcBFpFVbk/KECd0/hn+zwmZBCyzOCe/nKkFiaBGAWBSdYrfOmQggnj1yiFLkKF 3/3xBX/K0Nz+zZBhhTTXXSF5w6WFKsY/1RgcbDHJ5oTo4DTTnT6HOuuj/nyD8492inqf qupyn1wk/oKpDvCCiqY/jud6k7Ym/s4M1IkS4jsgd/gyTmmQB5BUTZmOtOcclojhRDlh kkhQzrlcQTT/vUjpm5CyX0XHSMcFkwAABRk57W+uT564JMfHNwa7DgZLMY47v3YDhJD8 OX/A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rooGxAA9/UDjOF8WJG++tiFbEthqiMQpkDHa/Nl3GOQ=; b=xfI8Pgrh9dQ/IbWwao5VlxjzXjusnemA5KrThyzGqvyVvoJrazJ7iiyUfiTP1AHmWg kHDaMxQwViURQDs32gikDQG7ixZRDgjzCIEmxHOMsvPhVwU0EEGi1grfkSr3KKf0Ob8C x1b1852fWcMwvQumUhBMqP1ODrgAiUn8Hj4L9lMtRdiBMEdQeRxmgQVXEBF/PrKFL6Nd JWVl2OmFJs2h3lOUNsKvHmliHnTGyVUiDJNEOq5/kTjG3wmR1LT7e6GPyBiaC5g/lcec 2q+FwPXkK6Voa1mV9T8c0qxhqEs7iZ7MmmerXw0ERK4yQdtdNj1Nzxtdg9zIC5HczoWl kJEQ== X-Received: by 10.140.92.226 with SMTP id b89mr25254qge.33.1411600794901; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:19:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.40.232 with SMTP id x95ls648265qgx.76.gmail; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.90.20 with SMTP id w20mr25573qgd.24.1411600792697; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Romaji #### To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <7db9c9ea-0392-4148-a437-6d3332dc1b8e@googlegroups.com> <66f51bb7-ace9-46b2-ba4d-47f9b35acd08@googlegroups.com> <3545684b-1984-4a09-83bb-5e3e5a8ce6a6@googlegroups.com> <788aa170-a48b-498f-bdb7-b7987ffabf18@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Beginner help, with also, How to reference product names that have no official Lojiban translation? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: nxt101@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3475_391699114.1411600792358" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_3475_391699114.1411600792358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 (the H because of the last name being Hashes) On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:17:44 PM UTC-4, Romaji #### wrote: > > Or it could be {mi'e la .romajih. mu'o}, right? > > On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:06:52 PM UTC-4, Latro wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Romaji #### wrote: >> >>> Thank you. >>> (P.S. Would the equivalent of your sig be "me'i la romaji mu'o", or is >>> there some Illegal combination of letters there?) >>> >> It'd be {mi'e}, but there's a technical problem with {romaji} as a name. >> For morphology reasons with which you needn't be concerned yet, {romaji} is >> actually {ro ma ji}, three cmavo. So it can't be a valid name. >> >> The standard fix is to stick an arbitrary consonant onto the end. This >> makes a cmevla (the same word class as {.skaip.}), which can only serve as >> names. The most common choice is {s}, which would make your sig {mi'e la >> .romajis. mu'o}. >> >> mi'e la latro'a mu'o >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_3475_391699114.1411600792358 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(the H because of the last name being Hashes)

On We= dnesday, September 24, 2014 7:17:44 PM UTC-4, Romaji #### wrote:
Or it could be {mi'e la = .romajih. mu'o}, right?

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:06:52 PM = UTC-4, Latro wrote:


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:43 PM, R= omaji #### <nxt...@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Thank you.
(P.S. Wou= ld the equivalent of your sig be "me'i la romaji mu'o", or is there some Il= legal combination of letters there?)
It'd = be {mi'e}, but there's a technical problem with {romaji} as a name. For mor= phology reasons with which you needn't be concerned yet, {romaji} is actual= ly {ro ma ji}, three cmavo. So it can't be a valid name.

The standa= rd fix is to stick an arbitrary consonant onto the end. This makes a cmevla= (the same word class as {.skaip.}), which can only serve as names. The mos= t common choice is {s}, which would make your sig {mi'e la .romajis. mu'o}.=

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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