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From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043745010e271e0503e3ef78 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d043745010e271e0503e3ef78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 it is now used by almost all active Lojbanists in IRC. It's a backward compatible change since now all cmevla must start with a pause, not just before vowels but even before consonants which wasn't the case before proposing this rule. 2014-09-25 17:36 GMT+04:00 Alex Kozhevnikov : > Since we're talking about valid cmevla, I've been wondering, how much > adoption has this seen? > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Case+Against+LA > > Personally I found the arguments in that page for the change > compelling, but since I'm new around here I have no context as to how > much acceptance it has gotten. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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it is now used by almost all active Lojbanists in IRC.It's a backward compatible change since now all cmevla must start with= a pause, not just before vowels but even before consonants which wasn'= t the case before proposing this rule.


2014-09-25 17:36 GMT+04:00 = Alex Kozhevnikov <alexkoz@gmail.com>:
Since we're talking about valid cmevla, I've been won= dering, how much
adoption has this seen?
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DTh= e+Case+Against+LA

Personally I found the arguments in that page for the change
compelling, but since I'm new around here I have no context as to how much acceptance it has gotten.

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