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To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 216.109.115.144 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass header.i=@yahoo.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Original-From: John E Clifford Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="431184223-1188468951-1411652624=:10135" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- --431184223-1188468951-1411652624=:10135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This still divides people but the dotside position (accepting the change) seems to be winning (and I used it earlier). On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:36 AM, Alex Kozhevnikov wrote: Since we're talking about valid cmevla, I've been wondering, how much adoption has this seen? http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Case+Against+LA Personally I found the arguments in that page for the change compelling, but since I'm new around here I have no context as to how much acceptance it has gotten. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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This still divides people but the dotside position= (accepting the change) seems to be winning (and I used it earlier).=



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On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:36 AM, Alex K= ozhevnikov <alexkoz@gmail.com> wrote:


Since we're talking about valid cmevla, I've been wond= ering, how much
adoption has this seen?
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-i= ndex.php?page=3DThe+Case+Against+LA

Personally I found the arguments in that page for the change
compelling, but since I'm new around here I have no context as to how=
much acceptance it has gotten.


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