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[107.14.166.231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id rj9si418671pdb.1.2014.09.25.16.31.06 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.231; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:56149] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B4/51-20791-AB5A4245; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:31:06 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB3A5E5 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 19:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Beginner help, with also, How to reference product names that have no official Lojiban translation? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 19:31:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1959512.BJD9P2b43k@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-35-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <694DB523-50C8-4EAB-9223-1FAE65745362@yahoo.com> References: <7db9c9ea-0392-4148-a437-6d3332dc1b8e@googlegroups.com> <694DB523-50C8-4EAB-9223-1FAE65745362@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 21:34:36 'John E. Clifford' via lojban wro= te: > Drat, have they changed the rules again for the Lord knows how manieth ti= me? > It has been, from time to time, that *anything* preceded by {la .} and > followed by{.}, with no intervening pause was a name, including some rath= er > messy sentences, the names of books or Indians (He is so fierce his enemi= es > are afraid of even just his horses.). What is the rule this week? You don't need a pause in {la selterpa xirma ponse}. (The original name was= =20 compressed, leading to the misleading translation "Man Afraid of his Horses= ".)=20 You need a pause only after a cmevla, before a cmevla (in dotside), before = a=20 word starting with a vowel, and in some cases of cmavo with 'y' in them or= =20 stressed on the last syllable. On Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:28:40 selpa'i wrote: > Am 25.09.2014 01:17, schrieb Romaji ####: > > Or it could be {mi'e la .romajih. mu'o}, right? >=20 > The closest to "h" is {x}, so you could go with {romajix}. (Isn't your > name pronounced more like {romadji} though?) From what I've read about Japanese phonetics, /d=CA=92/ and /=CA=92/ have = fallen=20 together, as have /dz/ and /z/ (allophones of /d/ and /z/ before /i/ and /u= /),=20 but /t=CA=83/ and /=CA=83/ and /ts/ and /s/ have not. They are still distin= guished in=20 kana though. Since this is a beginner's question, shouldn't it be on the beginners' list= ? Pierre --=20 Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.