Received: from mail-la0-f56.google.com ([209.85.215.56]:40265) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XXVtC-0006DY-4m for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:57 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f56.google.com with SMTP id mc6sf1099793lab.1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oaBJTOri4xfHRA2gaJu0cg4BjqqmJdnfF8qqyk1FND0=; b=g77ZxhbZOLIm9twkfo4Eyhx0RYOvyHm8vxYb3IL3DX6Fz0VKg7nfNYX7TM0UMMgdCh l2fdXaGzwBgovH76JKqhoPD0Row49gXCS/4kRvoEShRF9+JoB+P4j7zhAb/OrBvV8+by ozHttl/QFAAfpa6GU7CWvfkp+AE3/MLH+v9o6Py1XbHw9LtSPwaeRGcaOAnX/umKRzv1 uA9IL/0p+nqwFBZhhsKQ67zTT5uJZxmldger+Zt9Xe0ggfGhZvrJ9z8QeVj6NLV0yKR6 7nHj0lPYoD71njARyf5w7tH4KmtqNaZxTDyE9ylp/SahdrNa35vmYuZnqAgeCM6Unsiv XnlQ== X-Received: by 10.180.182.83 with SMTP id ec19mr252427wic.16.1411739319436; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.98.168 with SMTP id ej8ls116404wib.37.gmail; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.8.226 with SMTP id dn2mr3609663wid.4.1411739318941; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22e.google.com (mail-lb0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa3si4571lbc.0.2014.09.26.06.48.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e; Received: by mail-lb0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id l4so14489344lbv.19 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.118.227 with SMTP id kp3mr19126984lbb.75.1411739318834; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e6adb78-5492-465c-99b2-5c2e1162772f@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:48:38 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tenseless predicates mean -able? From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd921b49d58160503f82cb4 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bd921b49d58160503f82cb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Loglan has many crazy things of which the lack of {ko} immediately copmes > to mind but here is what you should subscribe to and ask there. > I won't dispute that Loglan may have some crazy things, but it could be argued that "ko" is one of Lojban's crazy things, since conflating the imperative mood with a pronoun is weird (and causes quite a few problems when it comes to figuring out scope and such). mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7bd921b49d58160503f82cb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <= gleki.is.my= .name@gmail.com> wrote:
Loglan has many crazy things of which the lack of {ko} immedi= ately copmes to mind but here is what you should subscribe to and ask there= .

I won't dispute that Loglan may= have some crazy things, but it could be argued that "ko" is one = of Lojban's crazy things, since conflating the imperative mood with a p= ronoun is weird (and causes quite a few problems when it comes to figuring = out scope and such). =C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorx= es

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