Received: from mail-lb0-f192.google.com ([209.85.217.192]:37740) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XXVw2-0006Gw-Ol for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:52 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f192.google.com with SMTP id f15sf17343lbj.29 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kxncXPl+NxjM5k6yJ4wIcQEuelBnVNtfhCCAZV8z4jc=; b=cIGZkqqPaR3KSZOgbURIXjLva8mh1anuEvPjxC5jX38WuYJ6j21/eXAy1/NVC97SAI t52RqGJsCL1Kh2NPN5RMr7ASp4LHX9RN08jElbw0Y6QWR9HMrmiV4shrtCZfcAbzmHkF DIqlZDtlR8CmAWaye6PWrc2umZ9qqgy+YHOWWFs6Kh6xGb2kfwoyIDfYHDt3tc5jjHai loO+LBqICKNBb1Owh0PeaSmc8nCxjcnrUSkaq9Ngxj0fIMfOSHLEMOf9Ru4REMdl5jL3 UJc1bIIIe/dCRZv4b+8wC9KVVec4IlDMfo8rWwES2+0b7wtyrWq87sW1JndL9DUHcVfs TQqw== X-Received: by 10.152.1.9 with SMTP id 9mr2429lai.29.1411739499515; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.37.74 with SMTP id w10ls413824laj.99.gmail; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.62.130 with SMTP id y2mr1916743lbr.4.1411739498339; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id us10si6439lbc.1.2014.09.26.06.51.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::233; Received: by mail-lb0-x233.google.com with SMTP id 10so14017655lbg.10 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.21.168 with SMTP id w8mr20823755lae.59.1411739498237; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.4.163 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e6adb78-5492-465c-99b2-5c2e1162772f@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:51:38 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tenseless predicates mean -able? From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158ad544ed4c70503f8371b X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e0158ad544ed4c70503f8371b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zo'o ko sitsku lo se du'u la lojban na jai fenki poi ti'e mi pu cusku 2014-09-26 17:48 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Loglan has many crazy things of which the lack of {ko} immediately copme= s >> to mind but here is what you should subscribe to and ask there. >> > > I won't dispute that Loglan may have some crazy things, but it could be > argued that "ko" is one of Lojban's crazy things, since conflating the > imperative mood with a pronoun is weird (and causes quite a few problems > when it comes to figuring out scope and such). > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0158ad544ed4c70503f8371b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
zo'o ko sitsku lo se du'u la lojban na jai fe= nki poi ti'e mi pu cusku

2014-09-26 17:48 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <= jjllambias@gmail.com>:


= On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Loglan has many crazy things of which the lack o= f {ko} immediately copmes to mind but here is what you should subscribe to = and ask there.

I won't dis= pute that Loglan may have some crazy things, but it could be argued that &q= uot;ko" is one of Lojban's crazy things, since conflating the impe= rative mood with a pronoun is weird (and causes quite a few problems when i= t comes to figuring out scope and such). =C2=A0
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mu'o mi'e xorxes

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