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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:37:55 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni}
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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> i mi zu'edji lo ka te vecnu pa karce noi da'inai tolkargu (there is  car
> such that i intend to buy it and btw it is cheap)
>

That's "I intend that there be one car that I buy". If you want the
quantifier to jump out of the subordinate clause, you need to prenex it:

"pa da poi karce zo'u mi zu'edji lo ka te vecnu da"

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.=
name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span cl=
ass=3D""><div><br></div></span><div>i mi zu&#39;edji lo ka te vecnu pa karc=
e noi da&#39;inai tolkargu (there is =C2=A0car such that i intend to buy it=
 and btw it is cheap)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv>That&#39;s &quot;I intend that there be one car that I buy&quot;. If you=
 want the quantifier to jump out of the subordinate clause, you need to pre=
nex it:</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;pa da poi karce zo&#39;u mi zu&#39;e=
dji lo ka te vecnu da&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xo=
rxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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